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Eric99

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I bought a used 180 gallon tank a few weeks ago. It is now on its stand. However I was in the tank cleaning it out and noticed one chip in the bottom of the left panel right in the middle. The guy had corals in there and chances are one must have fell or whatever. What should I do? The chip is probably 1/6 the thickness of the glass. I am thinking about going to the auto parts store and getting the thing that people use for their windshields whenever a windshield gets chipped. I do not want to get another one-I believe this could be fixed.
 
In all likelihood you have nothing to worry about. However because of the shape of the chip, the location of the impact and direction (orientation) could speak volumes.


I'd really hate to say anything that would cause you not to use the tank, however I think that you should have the information. A chip is a stress concentrator, meaning that when the tank is full, the stresses will concentrate in the area around the chip. Secondly, glass stores stresses invisibly. You can't tell if there are stored stresses by looking at it. The breaking of the chip could have released all of the energy in the impact, or there could still be stored stress in the glass. At 12mm, it sounds like there is enough 'engineering safety factor' in the tank (post the dimensions of the tank). The safety factor is to account for the uncertatinities involved in the design process and for unforseen events when a product is put into service. I haven't studied failure analysis of amorphous materials, so I can't give you good advice based on the shape of the chip. If you have access to a university library, you can get good information from research journals in Mechanical Engineering and Materials Engineering.
 
when you look at an aquarium stand and the aquarium itself you see that the bottom glass is not in contact with the stand. this might lead someone to think that the weight of the water is supported by the side walls and not the bottom. If you decide to use the chip repair kit from the auto store and still feel leary, I would suggest measuring the depth of the cavity under the aquarium and placing something under the damaged area to provide additionalsupport for the bottom glass. I,m obviously not as book smart as the other guy but, a little common sense is sometimes all that is needed!!! good luck let me know how you make out with the tank.
 
Is the chip on the inside of the tank or on the outside of the tank?

Can you take a picture of the tank showing the chip and it's location?
 
The issue has been addressed in several PM's.



CHOMPERS said:
Fix it like a windshield with the epoxy kit before replacing the silicone. It isn't going to make the tank stronger, but it will help with the resale when the time comes. If the chip is conceiled by trim on the outside, then you can bypass the epoxy repair and just silicone the tank.
Eric99 said:
Thanks alot! I really really appreciate the advice! You even went into detail why.

Now I shouldn't have to worry too much. However I did pull the chip out and also cut some silicone out with it. Should I try to fix it like a chip in a windshield or just put silicone over it?
Thanks again!
Eric






CHOMPERS said:
Eric99 said:
Thanks for the reply. The tank dimensions are 72" by 24" by 24". The chip is on the left side panel on the inside at the bottom by and on the sealant. It seems that the chip broke to the end of the glass. The chip is also in the middle of the panel not the sides. What if I go out and buy some filling that people use whenever they get chips in their windshields? Could that work? Also I was going to re seal the entire tank anyway and I have 4 tubes of aga sealant. It is also an All Glass Aquarium tank. Unfortunantly there is probably only one way to find out if it can hold water and that is to fill it up when Im done re sealing everything.
I had a hunch that it was at the edge, by the flat shape on the chip. That is really good news. It tells me that the impact took place at the factory. The clam shell effect seen in the chip indicates that the point of stress was at the center of those rings. Since that is where the flat side is, it suggests that the panel was set or dropped on an object that concentrated the stress at that point. Most aquariums go through a visual inspection before leaving the factory so that damage was probably in the form of stored stress which released later. This is also supported by there not being an apparent point of impact in the chip's flat plane.

Since the tank was in service with this already there, there certainly won't be a problem later on. Also, with it being at the bottom, the adjacent panel gives that area additional support.
 
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