Help pls. Flagtail (Fei Feng) dying!!!

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Symbiosis

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Hi guys,

Just got home and saw my Fei Feng upside down floating. He is a big one coming in at 38cm and looks pretty healthy but only in the last day or two he looked a bit pale until just then he is now floating upside down. Is there anything i can do to save it? and any suggestions what may have caused it. I know he gets bullied by the Giant Gourami a lot but he usually swims away with ease.

Just tested the water and pH is a bit high at 7.6 for some reason normally it sits on 6.5.... nitrate at 40ppm but i think with what happened to the fish the nitrate is a bit higher than usual too.... normally it sits around 10~20ppm... I do weekly water change of 50%.... and i feed them daily with Hikari food sticks/excel etc


Cheers

Eric
 
I would say right now put as much airstones as possible.. but if its upside down.. it probably is too late...

do u have any fish in there that can cause damage to it? what are its tankmates?

However, i think weekly water change of 50% is a problem... u have a ph spike.. if u have driftwood in ur tank.. 6.5 for amazon fish is ok.. normal is 7.0 / 7.6

Its usually 25% one a week, but even thats too much.. I do 35-50% 3times a week

Best of luck to your fei feng..
 
I have done 50% water change for 5 years now with same lot of fish from a 5 foot setup to now 8 foot setup and that has never seemed to be a problem. I have had the fei feng for 2 years now and it never seemed to have an issue. He eats really well and the only threat to him is the pink giant gourami who is about 30 cm who chases him up but he seems to be ok with it cos its been more than 9 months now since they have been in the same tank.

Here is a pic of the fei feng.... no marks at all.

any other suggestions or should i get ready to pack him up.

Cheers

Eric

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thanks for the tip though zerojquan85... other tank mates are silver sharks, silver dollars, clown loaches and sailfin catfish
 
yeah and the tail has only became like this in the last day or so.... if its to do with water i would have thought it would be the smaller and more sensetive fish like my loaches that would be affected.... only thing that i can think of that was different in the past few days is that the weather has been quite hot 35 degrees days and my air stone hasn't been working as the tube was pulled off the stone so no air was running through it.... but i am not sure whether that would affect it.
 
I think what u described is a case of attack from Giant Gourami, people think they are peaceful fish.. they aren't... I've seen cases where A Giant Gourmai attacks a silver that left both of eyes eaten.. basically pulled out of its socket..

The Fei feng def has signs of beinging attacked, the pectoral fins looks like its been ripped off a bit.... Its either that.. or its reach the end of its age.. But honestly.. i've seen Fei Feng at 15" before.. so it can't be old age..

I hope it goes well for u.. but a fish upside down.. its really its last last moments.. just like an upside down arowana... :(
 
yeah the only solutions i can come up with is the giant gourami beatened him up and eventually stressed him out.... the giant gourami when he was smaller pulled out two of my silver shark's eyes right out of the socket and killed a few regular gouramis.... he doesn't attack the clown loaches or other fish but seems to focus his attention just on the flagtail.....
 
Symbiosis;3620760; said:
yeah the only solutions i can come up with is the giant gourami beatened him up and eventually stressed him out.... the giant gourami when he was smaller pulled out two of my silver shark's eyes right out of the socket and killed a few regular gouramis.... he doesn't attack the clown loaches or other fish but seems to focus his attention just on the flagtail.....
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Clown Loach.. might seem innocent.. but they can defend themselves, with their hidden eye spikes..

Gournami are by far the hardest tankmate to keep with when they grow older... I think pleco/catfish/ or ATF/Wolf fish/ Payara might fair better with them..

Sorry for ur lost.. :(
 
As was said looks like your giant gourami is the culprit. Even fein feng is fast constant harassment will end up killing any fish. I just pulled an 8 inch synodontisis Angelicaus out of my 125 becuase he was beating on my L-091 pleco which is actually 9 inches. Anytime I see fighting other than barbs chasing each other I step in. Sucks fein feng are cool fish.
 
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