Help with Questions - New Tank Pics

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Monteferro

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Hello All...

I just want to start by saying how much this site has helped my knowledge of fish keeping. Even though I have not been a member for very long, I have spent much of my time reading and researching the forums for ideas and direction...

It has greatly influenced the care that I provide to the tanks that are in current operation and will certainly increase the quality of life for the future inhabitants of this new tank...

So here is where I am today (sorry in advance for the crappy quality pics - cell phone only for now)...

The tank dimensions are L-10' 10" X W-24" X H-24"
Approx. 300+ Gallons - built with 1/2" glass

Full tank shot from front (view from doorway in the kitchen)...
Front Full Tank Shot.jpg

Full tank shot from the right side...
Full Tank Shot from Right Side.jpg

The width dimension of this tank were pre-decided (after a consultation with my wife concerning the allowable space:D). I suppose that I could have gone slightly taller but after review of additional costs (the cost of the tank would have more than double if I had gone taller because I would have been bumped to 5/8 glass by the builder:().

The stand was built with pretty much entirely with help and direction from one of my good friends (who happens to also be my neighbor). It was constructed by using 4x4 and 6x6 posts with 12" lag bolts to secure the cross members. It is also secured to two walls of the house for extra stability.
Left Side Stand.jpg
Right Side Stand.jpg

Originally, before MFK, I had planned to filter this tank with canister filters. Needless to say, after spending many weeks on this site (reading and researching), I have decided to have an overflow installed and use canisters as a secondary.

This brings me to the first of my questions...

Because of the way that my stand was built, I would rather drill in the side panel instead of through the base of the tank (see picture below)

View of left side panel from inside the tank...
End Panel View from Inside.jpg

View of corner from outside...
Left Front Corner.jpg

Does drilling a side panel weaken the tank compared to going through the bottom?

Also, for referecnce, I am looking for flow of 3,000+ gallons per hour. I need to know what type bulk head will be required to support this. My original thought was 2 @ 2" but the person who will be drilling on site has mentioned a single hole at 2 1/2" to 3".

Will either one of these handle the flow that I need?

Is one option better than the other?

Any thoughts and or comments would be appreciated...

My second question is in regards to the lid and bracing... Currently I have three 1/2" glass braces spaced across the top from the original builder of the tank.

Current bracing picture...
Current Bracing Picture.jpg

Rather than what I have, I am hoping to find someone who can provide a complete cover with holes in it so there is a border around the entire top of the tank. I was thinking this could be acrylic instead of glass...

My questions is... If I go with acrylic, will it bond (using std aquarium silicone) to be as strong as glass to glass?

Will having a 2-3" border (as well as cross members)help strengthen the tank as I am hoping? Or am I better off to stay with what I have?

As for stocking, this is still up in the air... I have seen so many incredible set ups here!

My goal is to have the tank completed and up and running in the next few months (this has taken allot longer than I originally anticipated). Once the filtration and cover are in place I will be able to finish the rest of the construction (canopy and asthetics)... The end goal is to have the tank have the look of being built into the wall...

Again, any comments or ideas are welcome...

Thank you in advance...
 
My hats off to you Sir. If you are gonna do it, do it BIG.:headbang2

I have seen many of tanks with the back drilled and not the bottom I cannot say if that would cause any weakness.
A 2.5 or " is a BIG hole. I have never used more the 1.5" bulkheads

Are you gonna put some boards or paneling on the front of that tank? Get your cuts and a small nail gun and you slap that thing together in a few hours.

Looks good.
 
heavyhitter;2791994; said:
My hats off to you Sir. If you are gonna do it, do it BIG.:headbang2

Thank You! Still a long way to go... I am hoping that the 24" width does not limit my stocking options to much...
 
Monteferro;2791941; said:
Hello All...

My questions is... If I go with acrylic, will it bond (using std aquarium silicone) to be as strong as glass to glass?

Will having a 2-3" border (as well as cross members)help strengthen the tank as I am hoping? Or am I better off to stay with what I have?


Thank you in advance...

Bonding agents for acrylic actually melt the pieces together rather than adhere like silicon does. Are you taking about making a entire wrap around fixture for the top? Similiar to the plactic bracing you seen on All-Glass and Perfecto tanks?
 
heavyhitter;2791994; said:
I have seen many of tanks with the back drilled and not the bottom I cannot say if that would cause any weakness.
A 2.5 or " is a BIG hole. I have never used more the 1.5" bulkheads

Are you gonna put some boards or paneling on the front of that tank? Get your cuts and a small nail gun and you slap that thing together in a few hours.

Looks good.

Agreed about the hole size... Hoping someone here can confirm the best direction for 3,000 gallon flow...

Still not 100% sure about the wood for the front of the tank... Hoping to draw on the experience of my neighbor when we get to finishing... He definately has a nail gun!
 
heavyhitter;2792077; said:
Bonding agents for acrylic actually melt the pieces together rather than adhere like silicon does. Are you taking about making a entire wrap around fixture for the top? Similiar to the plactic bracing you seen on All-Glass and Perfecto tanks?

This is hard to explain without a picture... It wouldn't wrap around but it would be sealed at the top...

Basically it would be exactly the same as the bottom plate of the tank but have say 18"x 24" holes all the way along so you can get into the tank...
 
Monteferro;2792142; said:
This is hard to explain without a picture... It wouldn't wrap around but it would be sealed at the top...

Basically it would be exactly the same as the bottom plate of the tank but have say 18"x 24" holes all the way along so you can get into the tank...

I know exacty what you are taking about. I do not think there is a way to 'reliably' bond glass to the acrylic. I could be wrong.

As far as pumps and plumping size goes, even 4500GPH pumps still use only 1.5"
 
heavyhitter;2792376; said:
I know exacty what you are taking about. I do not think there is a way to 'reliably' bond glass to the acrylic. I could be wrong.

As far as pumps and plumping size goes, even 4500GPH pumps still use only 1.5"

Thanks for the info...

When you say - even 4500GPH pumps still use 1.5" - are you talking about a single bulkhead handling that much or multiple bulkheads at 1.5"...

Thanks again, just want to be sure so I know what to ask for when the tank driller comes out to have a look...
 
groovitudedude;2792436; said:
That's a pretty big tank. Better decide on the stocking :D

Agreed!

So many options...

Unfortunately, I realized to late that the 24" width could not handle arowanas and rays...

Cichlid community tank?
 
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