I fear that I killed my Midas & fish store lady told me to find a forum for help. We have been suffering our own major medical and it seems our brains shut down to the signs our fish was exhibiting and now I have spent the last food $ on store chemicals trying to save him but he is laying on his side gasping and I have 7 bodies to feed and medicate till next month's payday. (So poor woman ideas needed. ) Plus I really hate myself right now and if he doesn't make it everything goes cause I failed - no creature deserves this suffering. So if you have a thread that can help me know when I should give up and if I should euthanize and how would I do that please send me in that direction. I have some 35% food grade peroxide & I put a Tbsp in last hour but he moved away from it which leads me to believe that it doesn't dissipate instantly into h2o2 plus extra oxygen as some say. (120 gallon.) OK TIA.
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Changed 50% yesterday and got nitrates into safe range. We have been in and out of hospital ALOT so no schedule - haven't even been logging. I don't know how often safe to change. Been in good stasis for years with no chemicals but I bought topfin bacteria supplement and water conditioner and melafix. So I don't even know if I add h2o2 how much if any bacteria supplement I should replenish? If I post photo of my husbands foot ulcer it might help that fishy smell but it might be considered as posting a link - not allowed. . .TIA.
This from last night @ store.
Ammonia - ideal
Nitrate - 30
Nitrite - 0
Total hardness - between 150 - 300
Total chlorine - 0
Total alkalinity - 30
pH - between 6.8 & 7.2
Done after 50% h2o change. They said that the bacteria needs 72 hours to kick in. Tank alternates cloudy & clear so I hope that is what it is (bacteria cycles.)
If you euthanize them just bash there head dont try to freeze them or something tht makes them suffer the bash is quick and easy but hard to do
A fish store person said something about put him in a container with baking soda. ??? How does one know if it is time to end the suffering or if there is still hope?
Post some pics of the fish. How is it acitng? Did the water change help? Are u adding conditioner to ur water changes? What's ur filtration? Not sure what's going on with ur tank. Sounds a little off.
The goal at this point would be to keep ur ammonia 0, nitrite 0 and nitrate below 20ppm as best as u can. You'll need to test daily and even up to twice daily. You will likely need 2-3 wc per week and about 90% like pops said with a conditioner added otherwise ur BB will die.
Not sure why u mentioned ur husbands foot ulcer. But hope that gets resolved. If you have sick mouths to feed and not able to care for your tank then maybe a break is needed from the hobby. Depending on this fish recovering. Just something to think about as ur social situation has affected ur fish and possible future plans.
The goal at this point would be to keep ur ammonia 0, nitrite 0 and nitrate below 20ppm as best as u can. You'll need to test daily and even up to twice daily. You will likely need 2-3 wc per week and about 90% like pops said with a conditioner added otherwise ur BB will die.
Not sure why u mentioned ur husbands foot ulcer. But hope that gets resolved. If you have sick mouths to feed and not able to care for your tank then maybe a break is needed from the hobby. Depending on this fish recovering. Just something to think about as ur social situation has affected ur fish and possible future plans.
Said personal stuff so as not to smell fishy & explain how I got here without getting a hatefest since I'm already doing a good job of it on myself. Might take me awhile to learn how to post photos (the kids left) but he is laying on his side gasping on the gravel but he does get up and move around once in awhile. The fish store lady says there's still hope but husband thinks not. No. I won't be jumping back into the hobby. I'm too upset that I forgot everything I learned and even though the problem was in my face every day I somehow managed to not see as well as failed to overcome my own fluctuating physical problems - there's not enough of me - I'm in too much pain and shame to do this again. I've pretty much decided that it's supremely selfish to keep an animal like this anyway although the knowledge and practice is good for salvaging species. Been wondering how many poor creatures die silently in homes and how people can just pass it off and go get another. I profess to love him but I did this to him? I'm really hating myself right now. If I were wealthy enough to hire the help I need when I need it I would reconsider but the fact that we have been sick a long time does not ease the guilt that I feel. I have thought of re-homing him to a healthy person but how do I know it's not just someone who wants to watch him fight other creatures? Moot point now.
Not sure what filtration means. I have 2 filters on tank that are sufficient - 1 is Fluval 405. Other don't know. Have a Marineland canister that moves a lot of water been trying to figure out how to add it on in tight space and if all that flow would be too hard on him in his condition. No changes have helped except the melafix made him better a few minutes but I have to wait till tomorrow am to add next dose. There's an air stone but I have to leave it close to the top for it to work (all the name brand stuff I have bought that didn't work right. ) my test stuff expired - I tossed it and can't afford to replace. Yes water conditioner and bacteria supplement. The fish store said that the bacteria needs 72 hours to fully grow so that would put me at Saturday am to change h2o but then I take out 90% of good bacteria that I just grew? He is not eating or defecating. My nitrates are 10 pts over your acceptable level but other parameters meet your stated criteria. Has there ever been a fish laying on the bottom that recuperated? I just broke from writing to put peroxide in and he came up for the oxygen and then lay down again.
Not sure what filtration means. I have 2 filters on tank that are sufficient - 1 is Fluval 405. Other don't know. Have a Marineland canister that moves a lot of water been trying to figure out how to add it on in tight space and if all that flow would be too hard on him in his condition. No changes have helped except the melafix made him better a few minutes but I have to wait till tomorrow am to add next dose. There's an air stone but I have to leave it close to the top for it to work (all the name brand stuff I have bought that didn't work right. ) my test stuff expired - I tossed it and can't afford to replace. Yes water conditioner and bacteria supplement. The fish store said that the bacteria needs 72 hours to fully grow so that would put me at Saturday am to change h2o but then I take out 90% of good bacteria that I just grew? He is not eating or defecating. My nitrates are 10 pts over your acceptable level but other parameters meet your stated criteria. Has there ever been a fish laying on the bottom that recuperated? I just broke from writing to put peroxide in and he came up for the oxygen and then lay down again.