HOB and Canister

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i know I know this has been discussed before I’m sure. Anyway...I wanted to know peoples aregunents on using a HOB vs a canister or the other way around. I personally use HOB because for me it’s easier to maintain, less mess, I can get replacement filter cartridges extreamely cheap, and it’s just less stuff to worry about leaking (no hoses, connections, seals, etc. One thing I really like is that if the mech media is clogged then the water will run back into the tank instead of possibly ruining the pump or water going on the ground. What’s your opinion?
 
Over time canister users learn to do regular maintenance and not wait until the output flow cut by 50%. This removes the concern about water bypassing the media. Water will flow wherever there is least resistance. You shouldn't wait for your HOB to be clogged. All that stuff ends up back into the tank.

The pump in a canister does not suck the water out since it is gravity fed, which means you can't really ruin the pump. I haven't heard of a pump being ruined because it couldn't push out the water from the canister.

The HOB is different in that it does have to suck the water out. I would say that many users position the level of their HOB incorrectly, and if a small power outage to the HOB were to occur the pump can run dry and ruin the pump that way.

As far as leaking? Yeah that can happen but most of the leaks occur at the o-rings. People forget to lubricate them with food grade grease or forget to replace them after a certain amount of years. HOB's can have o-rings to where the pump connects body casing. I've replaced the o-ring on my AquaClear 50 after 10 years because it split.

The one thing that HOBs have over canisters is how easy it is to remove and clean the media with tank water. The one thing that I don't like about HOBs is the way the manufacturer advertises the necessity to replace filter cartridges.

In the end, as long as you don't get white cloud bacterial blooms after maintenance and both ammonia and nitrite stay at 0ppm every hour, the filter is doing its job, regardless if it's an HOB or canister.
 
Do you use the replacement cartridges or do you make your own?

Well i guess the type of hob is the key. I like aquaclear's. Ive always replace the foam with 30ppi poret foam so no cartridges
 
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Well i guess the type of hob is the key. I like aquaclear's. Ive always replace the foam with 30ppi poret foam so no cartridges
Ah ok. I have marineland penguins and can get a 6 pack of filters for the 350 for only 6 bucks. Two bucks a month isn’t bad to me.
 
HOBs are easier to maintain, and cheaper than canisters, but I think that canisters are more efficient and quieter, especially on larger tanks. I also think that HOBs require more regular maintenance than canisters, I have canisters that I haven't cleaned in years.
 
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The only HOB i feel is worth a damn are the aquaclear models. But they are somewhat noisy. I like putting my tanks right up against the wall as well so HOBs annoy me unless i can mount them on the side somehow.

I used an fx6 can for awhile on various tanks. Performance was good and i didnt find maintenance to be too bad but the pump eventually got noisy which was a dealbreaker for me.

Ive since switched to all internal sponge filters for my tanks, rigged up to various air pumps or powerheads. I enjoy the versatility and simplicity and the noise isnt as bad.
 
If I had only those 2 choices, I would take the HOB.
I don't believe the cans require less maintenance, I believe they require the same amount and frequency, and if they don't get it, become nitrate spewers.
Any pump with an impeller can be stopped or ruined by 1 grain of sand, or piece of debris, I've had it happen with cans (when I used them) HOBs, or any other.
Another reason any filter should be regularly cleaned, which includes brushing out the volute and impeller.
My problem with cans, is they make water look clear, and clean but the real issues (like high nitrate, and other invisible metabolism by products they produce) are easily overlooked.
A can came as part of the deal with my latest tank, but it sits dry, I doubt it will ever get used. I took it apart just to check it out, and the process, which would be the to clean, was a major pain.
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My choice is always a sump, although for an aquarist with only 1 or 2 average size tanks, a sump may be overkill.
For me hiding unsightly equipment like heaters, and other gear in sumps, instead of being visible in the main tank, the ease of maintaining equipment and filter media in an easy to reach sump, and the ability to add new water to the sump(as opposed to directly on the fish in the main tank) makes life easy.
I also find you can put sumps anywhere (they don't need to be directly below a tank), as long as the law of gravity is observed anywhere from behind a wall in a utility room (makes the sound problem go away, and maybe maintanence even easier), to even on another floor hiding all maintenance gear away, and helping to stabilize temps during heat spells, or near a floor drain where spills are less problematic, are all major plusses.
I have my latest one sitting off to the side in the garden, I can rinse gunk right on the plants.
Sorry for the tangent and derail, sometimes I just can't hep myself.
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