I used to have 4 Brazilians but i just sold one of them to a buddy of mine in Texas...lol. Long drive to say the least, but worth it. Anywho, I still have three of the gorgeous little buggas. They are my pride and joy! Woot! They are only about 5.5 to 6" right now, but growing quickly. I've got them all together in the same tank as well. I've been trying to find some larger Brazilian strains but they are hard to find, and expensive...lol. Did you get that adult pair of Venezuelans from Rapps?