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Hello. After loosing my Ellie over a year ago, I've been thinking of a new poly. I fell in love with a very tiny Polypterus senegalus senegalus at my local, decided no and got home for my husband to say "well, he is to small now, but he's only an inch or so smaller then Gil (a weather loach I have) so could keep him company for a while, then go upstairs and keep the giant danios company - or eat them, whichever - then go into the big tank... so we can go get him tomorrow." heh, way to feed the habit, babe. (The GDs were meant to be friends to my oscar, but refuse to grow bigger then 2 inches despite having a 4 foot tank to themselves!) My big tank is a 6.5x2x2 footer that Ellie lived in until her death (we figure she was quite old, she was at least 18 inches when we buried the poor girl) and is the current home of a few plecs and an oscar. I know with the size he is now my oscar would not think twice about eating him, but I know Gil is fine with small bottom fish (his friends were previously 2 other weather loaches, but they passed on and my in-laws never replaced them, he's been back home with me for the last few months and I've not got around to moving him upstairs to a bigger tank to get him friends)

Sorry, probably to much information, but here is some more: Currently the tank Gil (who is about 5 inches or so long, he's a big lad for a weather loach) is in is heated to 77F, has about 2 inches of sand on the bottom, filtered, and tomorrow will be full of live plants. Will this be a good home for the new poly for a while until he is big enough that the Danios won't pick on him? How long will it take him to grow enough to live with PITA? (Pain In The A.. you get the picture, and he IS exactly that) I know PITA is poly friendly, he loved Ellie to the point that I thought when she had died that he would sulk to death. We split them once thinking they would hurt each other and they both went on a 2 month food strike and sulked, sitting on the far end of the tanks where they could see each other. Once back together? Both pigged out and crammed themselves into the same cave. He's not really been right since she died, but I don't think the tank in general has been right either.

The 6.5x2x2 is also kept at 77F, filtered by two FX5s (over kill, but I use to have rescued pacu in it until they moved to a massive indoor pond) and will have a sand bottom over the summer as the gravel is getting on my nervs.

Thoughts? Ideas? I've never had a baby poly, Ellie was already a good 16-17 inches when I got her. She ate pellets, shrimp, fresh tuna, blood worms, every algae disc she could get away from PITA and about everything on the Poly approved list and then some plants on top just for fun. I am hoping the baby will do the same, and bring as much life into my large tank as Ellie did.

(if living with Gil is a bad idea - though I can't really see why off hand - I do have.. oh.. 20 or so other tanks.. don't ask, I have a very understocked fish room this summer! The tank Gil is in is already escape proof though, so it was first choice and second choice for having a lazy similar looking tank mate)

Thank you all so much in advance!

ETA: not all of the plecs will be there by the time he gets to the big tank. I've been a victim of "Oh, you have a big tank, do you want this fish or should I flush it, it got bigger then *local trash fish shop* said it would and *local good fish shop* is full again." for the last few years, but I am hoping the man who has my pacu (and just did a massive 18x10x8 FOOT heated pond) has room for them. Will be keeping Big Boy, You There, and That White One. (one day I will work out what they are - one is an albino something, one is a common L, and one looks just like the common L but black)

Thanks again :D
 
They can get up to about 7-9" the first year. they grow to about 5" very rapidlly. close to about 3/4" a month on average the first year.

Ever thought of other bichir sub-species?
 
The sen will grow fast over the first year, likely inch per month until the 10 inch mark.


Although Sens are a fine fish, I would encourage you to not limit yourself to a Sen with tank size available.

Weeksi, endi or ornate would go well. Whatever you decide you are going about it the right way!!! Planning and questioning are important.

Good Luck.
 
Get him some beefheart and he'll get big quick, nice and thick too.
 
thank you all! Going for a seng now (mostly because he was so cute and because I am 90% sure that is what Ellie was), but my dream is having an ornate and an endli as well :D the problem is though, that in about 6 years time my husband wants to move his clown loaches into my big tank. I put him off with with Ellie - as a 4 inch clown loach will be dinner, but he figures in 6+ years they wont be dinner size. Could a few polys even live with clown loach? They're really playfull fish, and while Ellie had her zoom about moments she seemed happier just to kick back and not be bothered lol

Ahhh: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...attachmentid=96460&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1195284103 maybe he is right then, when they look less like a packed lunch it will be okay. i just worry that his 4 loaches, the 3 plecs I want to keep, PITA and the new poly will be a bit much on the bottom of the tank (well, PITA technically isn't a bottom level fish, but he likes his sulks if food isn't on time or to his liking!)

I really want a weeksii or delhezi one day.. You know, next year after my floors are re-done I may give him my big tank for his loaches and get a new (*cough*bigger*cough*) one and just pack it with polys lol. Ellie was so lovely (hand fed, would always swim up to me and rub my hand or wrap around me and have a sort of cuddle) that I could easily see owning loads of them if I had the space :D (and the terms in my pre-nup LMAO)
 
but remember it doesnt matter how big the other fish is with the poly if he wants to try to take a chunk out of him by doin the "death roll" the poly will try.
 
Bichirs and plecos arent a good combination just to let you know.
 
For what it is worth, Ellie was likely not a sen. 16 to 17" would be very rare and unlikely for a sen. 12" would be good size. Still a good choice, just so your not looking for your new sen to reach that size.

Good luck.
 
ymolina;3196008; said:
but remember it doesnt matter how big the other fish is with the poly if he wants to try to take a chunk out of him by doin the "death roll" the poly will try.

eek :/ he was in with a tiny plec and hasn't touched it the two weeks he's been at the shop, so hopefully Gil will look way to big for him to bother with. So far he just cruised the tank then sat with Gil on the cave until I went back to work.

Thalan;3196063; said:
Bichirs and plecos arent a good combination just to let you know.

I've had Ellie with the plecs that are in there and they never bothered her, but most if not all of them will be gone by the time he moves in, if not will keep a very good eye on them all and if there are any problems I can move them to other tanks :) Thank you

Burbotman;3196779; said:
For what it is worth, Ellie was likely not a sen. 16 to 17" would be very rare and unlikely for a sen. 12" would be good size. Still a good choice, just so your not looking for your new sen to reach that size.

Good luck.

Here are some pics of her, please excuse the tank and shrimp parts, she had torn up the tank, ate all the shrimp that she was over fed and got very fat, I had thought she had eaten sand and took the pics to post here until later that night my friend said he dropped to many treats but was afraid to reach in for them. He means well:

http://www.spodbox.org/~saphphx/fishiefiles/bichir/EllieID.jpg
http://www.spodbox.org/~saphphx/fishiefiles/bichir/Ellie1.jpg
http://www.spodbox.org/~saphphx/fishiefiles/bichir/Ellie2.jpg
http://www.spodbox.org/~saphphx/fishiefiles/bichir/Ellie3.jpg
http://www.spodbox.org/~saphphx/fishiefiles/bichir/Ellie4.jpg
http://www.spodbox.org/~saphphx/fishiefiles/bichir/Ellie5.jpg

Will see if I have any pics of when I first got her when I get home, she really didn't look like any of the polys I could find pictures of, so went with the fish shops best guess. Hopefully Dino was labled right, but he does look like a sen to me: http://www.geocities.com/frankth3pirat3/photo.jpg <-- sorry for quality there, the tank light sucks and he moves to damn fast for my iPhone (Spent my whole lunch hour settling him in then had to run back to the office haha)

I am getting him his own cave tonight just in case he doesn't want to share with Gil, and I got a load of new live plants (from the tank he was in at the shop) that are in there as well (will have to plant them properly though - didn't want to mess about to much with the tank right away!)
 
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