Hybrid Motoro ideas...

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lnelms2

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I have a couple female motoro pups, and I want to breed them when they're ready. Just wondering what type of ray to breed them with...

Should I keep it strictly motoro, maybe a marble motoro male, are there any motoro hybrids that turn out stunning? motoro/hystrix?

All input welcome!
 
depends, there is a place for hybrids as long as you know what you have. we dont want it to turn into the asian ray community, where no one knows what is in a hybrid
 
better off keeping the blood lines pure IMO... we dont really need america to turn into asia with SP rays of god only knows what blood lines..
 
I am very curious why is SP frown upon other than ASIA, has it become a taboo to keep SP? From my point of view as a hobbyist (shallow view point), I do not really mind as long as the ray is healthy and beautiful. Maybe some of the forumers can educate me (or ppl from ASIA) why it is impt to keep the bloodline pure and why human induced hybridization degrades rays? I've really got no idea :(. :chillpill:
 
I think this is the same with flowerhorns. People breeding different breeds to achieve a certain look or color. It degrades the animals and it kills the hobby. For some reason people like playing GOD.

On a side note, I don't mind a single cross IE motoroxleo etc. Not a motoroxleo X henlixpearl.

Some of these hybrids do become lookers, but they are bred intentionally to make $$$$$$
 
jwong1024;3069328; said:
I think this is the same with flowerhorns. People breeding different breeds to achieve a certain look or color. It degrades the animals and it kills the hobby. For some reason people like playing GOD.

On a side note, I don't mind a single cross IE motoroxleo etc. Not a motoroxleo X henlixpearl.

Some of these hybrids do become lookers, but they are bred intentionally to make $$$$$$

Yah a valid concern, but stingrays do not breed as readily as flowerhorns, the qty of the pups are definitely lesser than the hundreds of fries flowerhorn can produce. Till the day where sp or hybrid rays can be mass produced like the flowerhorns, then that is really a cause for panick. IMO, I believe inbreeding, regardless of pure strains or hybrid is causing more damage to the hobby in general.
 
There is also a much smaller gene pool of rays in the hobby than there are of the fish that were hybridized to make a flowerhorn. There is a danger with such a limited genepool of someday losing pure bloodlines in the hobby, or losing track of what is a true bloodline. With fish like flowerhorns, there is no risk of flowerhorn hybrids causing a lack of pure, for instance, midas cichlids, and thus eradicating the pure midas cichlid in the hobby. However, with rays, if hybridization occurred in this part of the world as it does in others, we could soon find that we have little to no pure bloodlines left, which, in conjunction with the habitat loss and pollution that are already causing problems in the wild, could (conceivably, in the long term future) cause the loss of the entire species. Some of us may see this as melodramatic, but in my opinion, it's best to be safe, and refrain from hybridizing species whose pure lines have not yet been so strongly established in captive breeding programs. Just my two cents.
 
Wow, I'm definitely new to ray keeping. You guys have made some real valid points. One last question... Marble motoro x Regular Motoro, is this considered a hybrid since they are both motoros? I think not, but I'd rather be sure. I will definitely steer clear of trying to hybridize my rays...
 
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