I.D. and sex these two possible loisellei ?

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Loshmitchell101

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I got these two sold as Red Tiger Motaguense. I believe these to be loisellei or Freddy. Can you
please I.D. these and possibly sex them?
My thoughts are both are Loisellei not RTM and both are male. Total I paid 19.99 each for them
at this size. Both are between 5-6"
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I'd say Freddy personally but I'm not the best I'd when it's not a jag,rtm,or dovii. The first fish is a male though

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Im going to say friedrichsthalii they are for sure not a red tiger mota.
First pic looks t be a male cant really tell on the second.
 
both of these have grown considerably now. in the original pic the first guy has turned almost a redish brown through the entire body and is staying very dark in color with the in the original pic the second guy is turning very yellow and has blueish green sheen under the markings and has staying very light in color. I believe these to be both male. In my original pics I believe my first pic to be a male freddy and the second original pic I believe to be a male loisellei. Both of these were trade in at the LFS. They were sold to me as dovii mixes because they are not that knowledgeable with cichlids overall and only get them as trade ins. I paid 7.99 each for them.
 
They've both settled in very well in my 270 mixed cichlid and aro tank. I cant believe how much both of them will eat and often in times they are both completely swollen because they stuff themselves. I feed NLS, Hikari Gold, and frozen smelt and river prawns from an Asian market locally. I cant believe I found these guys. No matter what they are theyre here to stay.
 
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