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Where the cheeseheads are..
dude, need serious help pronto please...

my motoro died last night,
first I thought its solely because I forgot to clean my filters, probably high amonia inside the tank,

yes yes I know...
DAMN THAT GUY WHO MISTREATED HIS RAYS..

then i've checked my ph and it shows 8.0-8.2

I'm planning to move the rest to a new tank in my office, because I really dont have a filter in home,God forgive me...
but the new tank has only been setup for two days,
and the pH shows 8.3 there..

I'm soooo stressed out..
should I move them to a new tank with a great filter but has higher pH..
or I keep them here in a stable 8.0 with a great chance that they might follow the first to death..
 
How big is the tank? How many fish are in it?
First test your water and find out where your parameters are.
Second if you suspect ammonia, do a water change. Ph really doesn't matter just acclimate them slowly to it using the drip method.



Get what you need to test the water and do water changes.
 
I cant do water change in the office...
I got a huge sump there, but its only been running for two days..
Should I get a bacteria starter/booster for the sump?
Sorry forgot to mention earlier, fresh tap water there got ph 8.5,
the pH in the tank is 8.3 after two days
so I'll risk getting the pH inside the tank even higher if I do water changes...

ok, I guess I'll move them in the new tank in the afternoon..
acclimating them hour by hour..

say, do any of you approve using pH down products???
 
You need to start from square one.

Tell us about the tank.... Size, filtration, how long it's been up and going, inhabitants, WATER PARAMETERS etc..... Elaboration on "I really don't have a filter in home"

How long have you had the rays, where did they come from?

If your ray/rays are in bad shape moving them may be the nail in the coffin.... Especially to an uncycled tank.
 
I disagree that pH doesn't matter. There is a range that rays tolerate outside of their ideal but this is way beyond. pH 8.5 is totally unsuitable for keeping potamotrygon.
Unless you invest in an R/O unit to deal with it you will always have problems.
 
DavidW;3017120; said:
I disagree that pH doesn't matter. There is a range that rays tolerate outside of their ideal but this is way beyond. pH 8.5 is totally unsuitable for keeping potamotrygon.
Unless you invest in an R/O unit to deal with it you will always have problems.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I have friend who have kept rays
in that PH range and have been for years. Even breeding them in it.
 
Higher PH makes ammonia more toxic. The PH doesn't harm the rays. If you lower your ph to make ammonia less toxic, your ray will suffer from PH shock

Instead, try do to a large water change or use prime to detoxifies the ammonia that you have.

Your problem may be bio bacteria that's not enough to handle your current level of bio load

stan
 
flamenco-t;3017189; said:
Higher PH makes ammonia more toxic. The PH doesn't harm the rays. If you lower your ph to make ammonia less toxic, your ray will suffer from PH shock

Instead, try do to a large water change or use prime to detoxifies the ammonia that you have.

Your problem may be bio bacteria that's not enough to handle your current level of bio load

stan

Should be doing water changes often enough so there is no ammonia.
Just my .02
 
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