Ich dry?

[jandb]

I’m wondering how long ich can live out of the water? My example would be on a net that has been left out to dry. The net was used in a tank with ich then hung up for a week. Is that safe?

To take it a step further how about a python. It had been exposed to ich then not used for a week. The difference here is that there is some water in the hose.

 

[tlindsey]

I’m wondering how long ich can live out of the water? My example would be on a net that has been left out to dry. The net was used in a tank with ich then hung up for a week. Is that safe?

To take it a step further how about a python. It had been exposed to ich then not used for a week. The difference here is that there is some water in the hose.

duanes

 

[duanes]

Some ick protozoa have the ability to go dormant, and stay that way for extended periods and be carried on the wind. Although some people poo poo this, I would ask, how does it suddenly appear in desert pools after being totally dried up for a season? which it occasionally does.
When I had ick in tanks, after successful treatment I would soak nets, and other equipment in quarantine tanks I fill with bleach water.
All it takes is one dormant, invisible, microscopic individual to survive, and the the epidemic starts all over again. To me a couple gallons of bleach is worth the eace of mind.
I also do the same with some bacterial disease like columnaris, where a population of that species can go dormant, yet remain viable, in damp drop of detritus.

 

[Dloks]

Some ick protozoa have the ability to go dormant, and stay that way for extended periods and be carried on the wind. Although some people poo poo this, I would ask, how does it suddenly appear in desert pools after being totally dried up for a season? which it occasionally does.
When I had ick in tanks, after successful treatment I would soak nets, and other equipment in quarantine tanks I fill with bleach water.
All it takes is one dormant, invisible, microscopic individual to survive, and the the epidemic starts all over again. To me a couple gallons of bleach is worth the eace of mind.
I also do the same with some bacterial disease like columnaris, where a population of that species can go dormant, yet remain viable, in damp drop of detritus.

Real info from a real microbiologist. This is gold lol

 

[jandb]

Some ick protozoa have the ability to go dormant, and stay that way for extended periods and be carried on the wind. Although some people poo poo this, I would ask, how does it suddenly appear in desert pools after being totally dried up for a season? which it occasionally does.
When I had ick in tanks, after successful treatment I would soak nets, and other equipment in quarantine tanks I fill with bleach water.
All it takes is one dormant, invisible, microscopic individual to survive, and the the epidemic starts all over again. To me a couple gallons of bleach is worth the eace of mind.
I also do the same with some bacterial disease like columnaris, where a population of that species can go dormant, yet remain viable, in damp drop of detritus.

Great thought! Thanks.

Here’s my specific situation. I introduced 4 healthy , qt’d tiger stripe silver dollars into a grow out tank with heros liberifer. Almost 3 weeks later they had ich then a terrible fungus like slime. Silvers came through fine but lost all but 1 liberifer. I dosed quick cure that I feel like saved the last liberifer. Fast forward another month. I haven’t introduced anything new to my display tank nor do I use the same python or nets. I noticed ich the other day. Raised the temp to 85 and salted the water. The ich as lessoned but now my angels are breathing heavy at the top and fins are clamped. There is plenty of surface agitation with the temp increase and many of the other fish act fine. Should I dose quick cure thinking it may turn out to be whataever I had in the grow out tank?

 

[jandb]

Here’s a pic of the red backs. No ich anymore but clamped fins and distressed.

 

[jandb]

Here’s a better one.

 

[duanes]

Great thought! Thanks.

Fast forward another month. I haven’t introduced anything new to my display tank nor do I use the same python or nets. I noticed ich the other day. Raised the temp to 85 and salted the water. The ich as lessoned but now my angels are breathing heavy at the top and fins are clamped. There is plenty of surface agitation with the temp increase and many of the other fish act fine. Should I dose quick cure thinking it may turn out to be whataever I had in the grow out tank?

This sounds like a typical case of either dormant ick in the substrate, hatching out even though it appeared to be ick free, or.......that it really wasn't ick free, just because you don't see ick spots on fish, doesn't mean the ick protozoa is gone.
I aways treat and tank for at least a couple weeks after, the ick appears to be gone. The young ick are invisible to the naked eye, and each ick spot on the fish erupts into up to 100 new ick.

 

[Cabie]

Would rinsing with very hot water kill ich?

 

[duanes]

When ick is in a dormant state, medications like malachite, and formaldehyde, salt, heat, cold, none of those kill it, because it is encased in an impermeable shell. When it is a spot on the fish, the fishes own slime coat protects it from medication, only when those spots hatch out, are the new ick vulnerable.
When we raise the heat in the aquarium, it is to speed up the life cycle, so it "hatches" out, and is vulnerable to treatment.
Boiling water may do the trick in an uninhabited tank.