Ich Medications in a Stingray Tank?

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tanglovers

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Hi All,

I have a group of clown loaches in a tank with my motoro pup - 4-5 week old now. There is also a fly river turtle in the tank.

Anyhow a couple of the loaches are showing ich spots and rubbing. I need to get this cleared up.

The turtle and the ray are the most important things in here (i beleive never are susceptible to ich right?).

I have been recommended to use quinine and want to make sure this is safe. I have heard some ich is resistant to salt but can try that first as well.

Any suggestions?
 
One of my friend that breeds sting rays said the rays don't take the medication too well. It will be better if the loaches were put into another tank for medicating purpose.
 
salt is the best

4lbs per 100 gallons. dose half 1st day and half 2nd day
 
You could rise the temperature so that the ich parasite develops faster... then kill it with a **** load of salt.
 
You guys realize that a lot of ich is now heat and salt resistant? It's just like penicillin not working well anymore... the only ich that is surviving the standard treatment is the ich that's reproducing... so after a million generations of ich you get a strain that's pretty much immune to heat and salt.
You used to be able to treat with malachite green (not recommended with scaleless fish, same reason you would never want to use copper, which also works, but is horrible), and that stopped working well so they added formalin to it, making forma-green. This will work, but is really harsh (formalin is actually formaldehyde, what they use to embalm dead bodies).
Quinine is relatively gentle and is recommended for resistant strains of ich. It is safe for scaleless fish, for rays I'll repeat that i'm not sure because I have no first hand experience with it (I have treated sensitive scaleless fish with it, not rays though).
Does anyone have any first hand experience with rays and quinine? Not something they heard through a friend?
 
Heat resistant...? Heat will speed up any biological prosess... I don`t belive the ich parasite have evolved to become a exceptionn to this?
 
I have got a uv sterilizer.

The ich cycle becomes free swimming as part of it's life cycle, this should be killed by the uv, you need a sterilizer and not clarifier and you need to get the flow rate right and change the bulbs according to manufacturer.

I recommend the tmc. Vecton range, raise the temp to speed the cycle and add lots of aeration.

I would also try to find out what is stressing the loaches.
 
i had a recent outbreak and used this medication - it worked 100% with no ill effects to my two motoros, black aro, lima cat, and clownknife. the information is a little lacking but i can honestly say it worked after treating for 4 days not 5!!!!!!!!!!

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