ID for these Satanoperca..

[upyor]

Heres the first one

Heres the second one

Not 100% sure what they are.. the first one i got as leucosticta and second one as a jurapari.. but to me they look the same.
first one is about 6-7"
second one is about 4-5"

 

[bbortko]

Both leucosticta, jurapara have stripes on the face leucostica have dots

 

[jag123]

It doesn't appear that either one is leucosticta. The first one looks like it could be a mapiritensis based on the body/head shape in addition to the very small spangles on the face.

The second one looks like it could be jurupari, but both pics are quite blurry, and you really need some good detail to identify when the differences are so minute.

 

[abarilot]

Clear photos will make the ID a lot easier, especially if you can get a close up of their heads.

 

[upyor]

I'll try n get close ups of their faces. thanks guy

 

[upyor]

Couldnt take good pics.. this is best i can do..
this is the bigger one

This is the smaller one

 

[JK47]

It doesn't appear that either one is leucosticta. The first one looks like it could be a mapiritensis based on the body/head shape in addition to the very small spangles on the face.

The second one looks like it could be jurupari, but both pics are quite blurry, and you really need some good detail to identify when the differences are so minute.

I wouldn't touch a mapiritensis ID based on these pics. I've kept 5 in recent years (<<< 8" TL female in my avatar). Do you know the collection point of the fish? Keep in mind the number of sp varients of non-spotted Satanoperca out there. Quick google results:

Satanoperca sp."Jaru"
Satanoperca jurupari
Satanoperca cf. jurupari "Guyana"
Satanoperca cf. jurupari "Momon River"
Satanoperca cf. jurupari "Rio Capim"
Satanoperca leucosticta
Satanoperca cf. leucosticta "Amazonas Red"
Satanoperca cf. leucosticta "Gold Spot"
Satanoperca cf. leucosticta "Gold Stripe"
Satanoperca cf. leucosticta "Rio Tapajós"
Satanoperca cf. leucosticta "Speckle-Back"
Satanoperca cf. leucosticta "Xingu"
Satanoperca mapiritensis
Satanoperca pappaterra
Satanoperca sp."Redlip" ("French Guiana") ("Amapá")
Satanoperca sp."Tocantins"
Satanoperca sp."Trombetas"

 

[upyor]

Dam.. never knew there were that many different satanopercas.. I dont know the collection point..
Any ideas of what it might be jk47?