ID: PBB or Lapradei?

[Alexkoj]

Hi guys, I'm considering to purchase a PBB or two from a seller online. The seller has sent be some pictures of the PBBs for sale. As they're still rather young, I would appreciate it if I could have your inputs in whether they are:

1) Indeed PBBs and not lapradeis, and
2) Whether they are WC / CB.

Cheers guys.
Have a great Monday!

 

[Vancouver_98683]

What U.S. city are you from and who's the online seller (company or store?)

 

[Alexkoj]

What U.S. city are you from and who's the online seller (company or store?)

I'm not based in the U.S., Vancouver.

Do you reckon that these are WC PBBs?

 

[Alexkoj]

Update: the seller has said that they're wild caught PBBs. Shall wait for the pros on MFK to chime in

 

[Vancouver_98683]

I'll provide my opinion now. These look to be the smaller WC pbb other people are getting. These are 10-12 inches right? Most likely the dealer is getting these from Toyin, Rehoboth Aquatics from the U.S.

 

[Alexkoj]

I'll provide my opinion now. These look to be the smaller WC pbb other people are getting. These are 10-12 inches right? Most likely the dealer is getting these from Toyin, Rehoboth Aquatics from the U.S.

Thanks for opining Vancouver. They are apparently 15 inches. May I ask how you came to the deduction that these are CB PBBs?

 

[Hao]

Looks like WC PBBs to me.

 

[Vancouver_98683]

Thanks for opining Vancouver. They are apparently 15 inches. May I ask how you came to the deduction that these are CB PBBs?

I've owned 2 WC PBB (20"+), WC Nigerian lap, and several small CB laps. So ive stared at them quite a bit, Lol. WC pbb tend to have this look to them. Trickier to ID when smaller than 16" imo. They present an Elongated narrow Head shape and gill plate. At smaller wc pbb sizes. They are almost always thin. Plus, the serpent like eyes and face is a giveaway for me to be a pbb. Seems like there's a crease from the eye leading to the snout. Many other WC laps have this such as Faranah and Koloton. You'll also notice many smaller pbb possessing those same patterns and lighter olive green tone when washed out.

Lapradei have a smaller Head shape and face. Seems they get thicker and stubbier even at smaller sizes. This goes for both CB and WC Lapradei.

J jaws7777 . Here's a great example of a smaller WC pbb ordered from Toyin.

 

[Alexkoj]

Interesting - Hao , could you please share your reasoning as well?

 

[shookONES]

Big block head at that small size is indicative of PBB. Proportions, finlets, and overall shape leads me to believe WC as well. I wouldn't hesitate to add to my collection...tack on another vote for WC PBB from me.