ID Please.

[CRAIG1591]

Hey Guys,
Today I got 2 fish from a mate yesterday, they were with an oscar in a 4 Foot tank and the oscar was beginning to get a bit aggresive with them.
I have taken the best photo's I can get of them. They are about 4 inches.
I would like an ID as I would like to try and get more of them.

Cheers Craig.

 

[Sab_Fan]

beauties . . . some sort of geophagus, no?

 

[Loves severums]

geophagus pindare maybe?

 

[CRAIG1591]

I will try and get some better photo's of them to help with a possible ID.

 

[peathenster]

hmmm...could they be young G. winemilleri? I think I can see a little preopercular mark in pic#2...

 

[6 bar]

At first glance. I'd think it is geophagus abalios.

 

[peathenster]

At first glance. I'd think it is geophagus abalios.

But G. abalios doesn't have the preopercular mark, and should have 6 lateral bars (the lateral spot should be on the third lateral bar).....

 

[CRAIG1591]

Took copies of the photo's to my LFS.
The guy their reckons that they are Geophagus Surinamensis.
What do you guys reckon about that?

Cheers Craig.

 

[typicaltony]

im thinking it's a g.altifrons

 

[japes]

It's not a Geophagus surinamensis, you could get that answer from any number of inexperienced keepers. Lateral spot is a bit large for an altifrons variant, even at that size in my experience.

Has quite a sizeable dorsal fin from those photographs, but I'm not sure whether what looks to be a pre-opercular mark is actually one, but I'm with peathenster on this one, looks like a sub-adult/juvenile G. winemilleri. Eye colouration, fin patterning, barring and lateral spot size and position all fit.