Id please

[doomiedee]

I bought it as a creamsickle midus but im unsure looks like a midevil to me.

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[karate626]

Good looking fish. It's a male for sure!


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[rrcoolj]

Please read this sticky concerning whether your fish is a midevil/red devil/midas

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?367826-Please-read-before-asking-if-you-have-a-Midas-or-Red-Devil

As for gender there is no way of knowing unless it is vented.

 

[doomiedee]

Thanks bro

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[doomiedee]

Please read this sticky concerning whether your fish is a midevil/red devil/midas

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?367826-Please-read-before-asking-if-you-have-a-Midas-or-Red-Devil

As for gender there is no way of knowing unless it is vented.

From that thread I take its a red devil.

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[hybridcichlids]

Look like a female rd for sure

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[doomiedee]

Look like a female rd for sure

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Your right mo. I just vented her. Idk if she would make good red texas cause her color.

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[Chrisplosion]

Its a Midevil but its built more like a Midas than a Red Devil. You can't really visually sex these fish.

 

[rrcoolj]

From that thread I take its a red devil.

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Then you did not read very closely.

Here's the problem with these questions. It is impossible to simply eyeball a fully grown adult fish and determine 100% if it's A. labiatum or A. citrinellum. For far too many years, these two species have been crossed by breeders and farms all over the world. Some of these people may not have known the difference between the two while others simply may not have cared.

Either way, the fish commonly found in lfs and chain stores are most likely going to be hybrids of the two species. I don't recall who it was but someone on this site coined the term 'Midevil" for these fish and it's starting to stick. That's essentially how any "Red Devil" or "Midas" purchases from an lfs should be treated...as a hybrid of the two.

Add to the above the fact that other species of the Red Devil complex (such as A. xiloaensis, A. sagittae etc) are becoming more available, there's no telling how much more hybridization will occur with these closely-related species. We may eventually have to start calling them Midexiloittae.

The only way to know for sure is to get your fish from a reputable source. There are many reputable sources around such as Cichlid Connection, Jeff Rapps, Don Conkel, Ken Davis and I'm sure many others

In other words unless you get your fish from a reputable breeder assume it is a hybrid or midevil because there is a 99% chance it is.

 

[doomiedee]

I thought it was a midevil from the start.I did read it and the last page shows a midus and red devil in comparison and it looks more like a red devil.

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