Id this shovelnose?

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Considering picking it up and putting it in with my other 2 shovelnose I got recently. It's only about an inch smaller. It's other eye not pictured is cloudy at the moment and I'm sure it's not getting treated.
 
lol. Thanks. Thats what the girl read off the tank to me. Looking for perhaps a better specific species id.
 
its very hard to ID them until they hit 20"+ i believe
 
I agree.

I doubt the wild-caught claim in general. It may be true but the incentive to "improve" the sale (both price and sale probability) by such a simple and yet impossible-to-prove case makes me wary.

Why would anyone bother if fish farms cull underperforming TSNs by myriads and funnel them into our trade?

On the other hand the price argues it may be w/c because such are more expensive to obtain.

Personally, I'd not get it until it looks 100% healthy.
 
I agree with everything you said. It looks good except the cloudy left eye and its in a tank with all kinds of whatever the hell couldn't go into another tank that day. I got a 10 gallon to treat it in if I pick it up. Just looking for opinions based on the very little I know of these things.
 
As stated, out of the common TSNs we get in the states (99% fasciatum, 0.5% tigrinum, 0.5% reticulatum, ~0% everything else), only by 1.5'-2' mark are we usually able to make a guess at their species.

All juvies look exceedingly similar, all have the white lateral stripe.

The coloration pattern undergoes a heavy evolution with age / size... plus variability (geographic for w/c, possible hybridization for farmed TSN) and taxonomic uncertainties do not help.
 
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