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yes... anything in a particular genus will readily breed... examples (M. Estherae x M. Callanios), (Ps. Elongatus x Ps. Demasoni), (M. Auratus x M. Johannii), if a male of one and a female of the other exsist in the same tank without their own species' mate, THEY WILL cross. Also Peacocks Haps and Mbuna, can also mix together, although not as common it can and does happen... I.E. OB Peacock = Peacock + Mbuna

on a personal note: this tank looks almost exactly like my very first african tank from years back. I used white marble chip gravel, and black slate kinda bringing back memories... I wish I had a picture of it would have been funny
 
yes... anything in a particular genus will readily breed... examples (M. Estherae x M. Callanios), (Ps. Elongatus x Ps. Demasoni), (M. Auratus x M. Johannii), if a male of one and a female of the other exsist in the same tank without their own species' mate, THEY WILL cross. Also Peacocks Haps and Mbuna, can also mix together, although not as common it can and does happen... I.E. OB Peacock = Peacock + Mbuna

on a personal note: this tank looks almost exactly like my very first african tank from years back. I used white marble chip gravel, and black slate kinda bringing back memories... I wish I had a picture of it would have been funny

Thanks would it be difficult for them too mix breed Can you I.d these fish they are all Metriaclima or previously pseudrotropheus zebra. I have 3 blue zebras 7 ob morphs and a male red zebra!
I thought psudotropheus is the genus is mix match genus . where they dont know where they go.

Thank you. I'm not being rude I just looking for knowledge from you. Please don't take offense!


I have some melonchromis paralleus and some johanni I would like to see them cross breed.

I was working at lowes and they gave me a crate load of broken slate for 30 bucks lol
I see you post on alot of post you seem more knowledgeable then me but this is new experience for me, I finally talked someone who I can learn something from lol! Thanks man
Also you know anything on super red texas cichlids and thanks for your reponse.
 
Thanks would it be difficult for them too mix breed Can you I.d these fish they are all Metriaclima or previously pseudrotropheus zebra. I have 3 blue zebras 7 ob morphs and a male red zebra!
I thought psudotropheus is the genus is mix match genus . where they dont know where they go.

Thank you. I'm not being rude I just looking for knowledge from you. Please don't take offense!


I have some melonchromis paralleus and some johanni I would like to see them cross breed.

I was working at lowes and they gave me a crate load of broken slate for 30 bucks lol
I see you post on alot of post you seem more knowledgeable then me but this is new experience for me, I finally talked someone who I can learn something from lol! Thanks man
Also you know anything on super red texas cichlids and thanks for your reponse.

Thanks for the compliments... I feel special...:woot:

No offences taken at all...

Pseudotropheus is somewhat of a mix match, but there are still a lot of similar species that if they were regrouped would be regrouped together... for instance the Ps. Demasoni "mozambique" is thought to be a natural hybrid of the Demasoni and Elongatus... so if it happens in nature it will definatly happen in the tank... because its extremely rare naturally

Im not understanding what you are asking me about IDing your fish? You have named what I have seen already Red = Estherae, Blue= can be either Male Estherae or Callainos, and OB= Estherae OB (only females are OB)

Red Texas Cichlids are CA/SA Hybrids = Texas Cichlid + Red Devil, I would guess Highly aggressive due to both Texas and RD being aggressive and hybridization usually intensifies natural aggression... I would say that it would be a fish killer
 
Thanks for the compliments... I feel special...:woot:

No offences taken at all...

Pseudotropheus is somewhat of a mix match, but there are still a lot of similar species that if they were regrouped would be regrouped together... for instance the Ps. Demasoni "mozambique" is thought to be a natural hybrid of the Demasoni and Elongatus... so if it happens in nature it will definatly happen in the tank... because its extremely rare naturally

Im not understanding what you are asking me about IDing your fish? You have named what I have seen already Red = Estherae, Blue= can be either Male Estherae or Callainos, and OB= Estherae OB (only females are OB)

Red Texas Cichlids are CA/SA Hybrids = Texas Cichlid + Red Devil, I would guess Highly aggressive due to both Texas and RD being aggressive and hybridization usually intensifies natural aggression... I would say that it would be a fish killer

im asking if the fish in the photos are capable of mix breeding. What would they offspring look like if the blotch ones mix with the blue ones. I heard that 90 percent of all blotch ones are male! Are all the blotch ones female? Some have blue in them!
 
OB M. Estherae are all female, BUT there is a variant of the OB Zebra called a BlueBerry, its a Metriaclima Sp. not an Estherae. As for the blue ones Its hard by looking at pictures to tell whether its a male Estherae, which is blue, or a Callainos which is also blue. These are all of the problems that arise from trying to ID Cichlids via picture... very hard in some cases. If I was to see them in person it would be much easier.

And again... YES, they can all mix... AND please do me one HUGE favor???... if you hybridize fish please do it for yourself, and do not distribute them... health issues and temperments can come from making hybrids and some of us who keep African Cichlids would like to keep as much of the original strains together as we can.

Thanks... good luck with the tank:)
 
I agree with most of the above except that the OBs are all female. I use to breed OB zebras and there were definitively male and female OBs. The blueberry strain is the OB version of cobalt blue zebras. I believe you are thinking of Labeotropheus trewavasae where the females are OB and the males are blue/red top.
http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com/aquarium/mbuna_estherae.html


OP looks like you have metriaclima estherae(both red and OB), and metriaclima callainos. Blue male estherae are not very common so most likely the blue ones you have are metriaclima callainos. They all can and will cross breed.
 
I agree with most of the above except that the OBs are all female. I use to breed OB zebras and there were definitively male and female OBs. The blueberry strain is the OB version of cobalt blue zebras. I believe you are thinking of Labeotropheus trewavasae where the females are OB and the males are blue/red top.
http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com/aquarium/mbuna_estherae.html


OP looks like you have metriaclima estherae(both red and OB), and metriaclima callainos. Blue male estherae are not very common so most likely the blue ones you have are metriaclima callainos. They all can and will cross breed.

Thanks I appreciate all this good advice that I have been giving! One of the blue ones has a hump on his head! ANy last thoughts?
 
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