I'm Heart-Broken

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Cueball703

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Jun 20, 2013
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This past Monday, I lost 3 of my 6 Plecos due to my Roommate overfeeding my fish over the past weekend. I have a 72 gallon tank, and had the following Plecos: 1 Leopard Sailfin Pleco (10 inches), 1 King Tiger Pleco (about 3 inches), 1 Golden Nugget Pleco (about 3 inches), 1 Green Phantom Pleco (about 3 inches), 1 Blue Panaque Pleco (about 3 inches), and 1 Zebra Pleco (L46 about 1/2 inch). The Plecos that died were the Green Phantom, Blue Panaque, and Zebra. I've had the GP for 1.5 years, and the BP for about 1 year. I had just gotten the Zebra 7 months ago.

I have other assorted fish in the tank as well (Angels, Black Ghosts, Yoyo Loaches, Glolite Tetras, Mollies). I don't know what my roommate did, because he has been feeding my fish for me (when I am away at work) once to twice a week (as instructed), every week, for the past year with no incidents. I've been doing regular Tank cleaning and water changes (approximately 40 gallons) once every two weeks. My water parameters were always checking out good (just a little bit higher on the Nitrates (but not at a dangerous level).

When I had gotten home from work on Monday morning, the water in my tank was cloudy, and the fish were swimming about very listlessly. I saw a whole bed of Tertramin Flakes all over the bottom of my tank, and I found 3 of my Plecos dead (mentioned above). I tested the Water, and the Nitrates and Nitrites were over the roof (as far as high levels). I immediately got a bunch of pots from my kitchen and filled them up with fresh water (from my kitchen sink (I have an InstaPure Charcoal Water Filter attached there, and the water has been perfect for the fish)). I scooped out all of the fish from the tank, and transferred them to the pots. I then proceeded to do my regular cleaning of the tank while I siphoned out as much of the water from the tank as possible (until the water level was below the point where the siphon could not work anymore). I think I had about 2 gallons of water left in the tank (underneath about 30 pounds of gravel that I have in the tank). I then proceeded to refill the tank with fresh water. When I had put in about 10 gallons of water, I proceeded to siphon out about half of that (to pick up anymore of the crap that may not have gotten siphoned up in the first attempt, and insure the water was as pure as possible for the fish). I then finished adding water back into the tank. Once a month, I change the stuff in my Fluval 406 filter. This past Monday was the normal date I would have done that, so I didn't do anything differently with the filter. I always replace 2 of the 4 Charcoal packs, and half of the Bio Element. I also replace all of the styrofoam and foam pieces within the filter each month.

After I finished cleaning the tank and re-preparing it for my fish, I took the next few hours to find a pet shop where I could attempt to replace the lost Plecos. I was able to find a place in NJ that happened to have a Green Phantom ($50) and a Blue Panaque ($40). They were about 1.5 inches (half the size of my original ones), so I bought them. I then got home, and my tank water was looking perfectly clear again. I tested the water, and everything tested out perfect. My Nitrates were at the lowest they've ever been since I've had the tank (but I know that will change within a few days). The Nitrites were back down to zero again. I put all of the fish back into the tank (along with the "Newbies") that Monday evening. I have tested the water each day now (for the last 3 days), and everything is still perfect.

Since the fish had last been fed on Sunday (and the overfeeding incident was discovered on Monday), I didn't feed the fish for 3 days (waited until Wednesday night to feed them). All of the fish have been swimming about normally (since the drastic water change), and they seemed to eat normally when I fed them on Wednesday night. I am now away at work for the next 3 days, and I have taken new safety measures with regard to my roommate feeding the fish. I bought some thimble-sized cups with covers, and I am now leaving pre-measured Tetramin Flakes in there (so that he can't overfeed them again). As part of their regular diet, along with the Tetramin, they also get fed either 1 cube of frozen Bloodworms or Brine Shrimp (alternating at each feeding). When I get home in 3 days, I will test the water again. If it tests fine, I will just continue as normal.

Even tho I have replaced 2 Plecos, I am still hurt that I had to. I also miss my Zebra Pleco (which is gonna be a helluva long time before I can find another at the price I paid for mine ($142 (which included Overnight Shipping)). I REFUSE to pay $300 for another L46... That's just ridiculous.
 
hate it for ya dude. I had a similar experience 4-5 years ago when i took the wife and kids out for a week on vacation. Asked my brother in law to take care of the fish for me and explained everything in detail pretty well. I mean my oldest who at the time was 7 knew how to do a proper feed, so I assumed a 25yo could handle it. Came back home to find an entire bag of hikari gold just flat dumped in the tank, pooled up in the corner and very clear it had been sitting there dissolving for a few days. I ended up losing nearly all my fish, which including a beautiful carpintis + gt and one of the cleanest white striped king tigers I've come across even to this day.. he was active too which was another huge plus for that pleco giving how reclusive they like to be.

Since that event I've just gotten to where I don't feed anything if I'm going out of town. I'll power feed for a few weeks leading up to that point then do a large water change 1-2 days before and then let them fast for the week or so that we're gone. Only downside then is you don't have anyone checking them.. I lost my L27 xingu as a result, back in october, because he burned a hole in his head while we were gone. He lived for about a week or so after, but not sure if it was infection or what but I woke up one morning and he didnt move from the middle of the tank like he usually did. Checked him out and he was completely rigid no breathing/movement. Sucked so much. My kids loved him the most and my wife had even grown attached, and called him Sandwurm, from the movie Beetlejuice.
 
Yep, Sorry to hear about your loss.
I really hate having non-fishkeepers watch my fish.
This kind of thing happens all the time. You tell them "small pinch" and show them.
Then they are too lazy to make a pinch, they just take the container of food and shake some in.
Eventually they get an OOPS and overfeed, and they don't care enough to get a net and scoop it out.
They just shrug, walk away, and then the fish die.

I remember when I was about 10 years old, I had a ten gallon community tank. Had some fish in there about 3 years old. Was really attached to them. Came home, and the neighbor overfed and killed the entire tank.. Dead fish everywhere.. Was one of the worst days of my childhood.
 
Another sad statistic on letting non-fishkeepers feed your fish while you're away. Unless you're going to be away for more than 2 weeks, you're fish will be fine and much safer on a fast. Unfortunately, this is a common story on ALL fish forums.
 
If you are away for 3 days...I would not have them fed until you return. I'm at my house everyday and I'm on a 2-3 day feeding schedule.

The time's in the past when I was gone weeks at a time I pre-packaged what I wanted in the tank per feeding. If missed they were instructed not to add.
 
I read about so many stories of the fish keepers giving strict, precise instructions, and yet the "sitter" stick F***s-Up
 
Measuring dry food out for newbies to feed is essential. I personally hate flake, so easy to spoil water if not careful with this stuff ime. Fish shouldn't need to eat for your vaca if they're already well fed & healthy to begin with. When I go away, my younger brother comes over every few days to make sure nothing is dead & rots the tank. He likes to feed something for his entertainment, so I give him a few PE mysis sections that I know will get cleaned up quick from my bottom feeders...Also, you were mixing different pleco species that thrive in different water temps. Gold nugget & zebra thrive in higher temps than the others. Something may have broken down anyways within time
 
hate it for ya dude. I had a similar experience 4-5 years ago when i took the wife and kids out for a week on vacation. Asked my brother in law to take care of the fish for me and explained everything in detail pretty well. I mean my oldest who at the time was 7 knew how to do a proper feed, so I assumed a 25yo could handle it. Came back home to find an entire bag of hikari gold just flat dumped in the tank, pooled up in the corner and very clear it had been sitting there dissolving for a few days.
Kinda makes you want to throttle him!!!! I know I had to hold back from doing that to my Roommate. You'd think, at the very least, he would have felt guilty enough to offer to pay me to replace the fish I lost... but Nooooooooooooo!!!!!... and I won't ask him either. I have to just face the fact that it was an accident, and S**T HAPPENS!!!


If you are away for 3 days...I would not have them fed until you return. I'm at my house everyday and I'm on a 2-3 day feeding schedule.

The time's in the past when I was gone weeks at a time I pre-packaged what I wanted in the tank per feeding. If missed they were instructed not to add.

I've had my fish for about 1 1/2 years now (picked the hobby back up after about 15 years). Since I first set up this tank (and got past some initial setbacks in the very beginning), I have kept my fish on an every-other-day feeding schedule. I don't want to deviate from that, as it appears the fish know when they are supposed to be fed, and I don't want them (possibly) turning on each other if they don't get fed on their schedule. This past week was the exception to that rule (where I didn't feed them for 3 days) due to the fact that they were overfed. I wanted to give them a chance to digest what they had consumed.

Also, you were mixing different pleco species that thrive in different water temps. Gold nugget & zebra thrive in higher temps than the others.
I keep my tank water temp between 80-82 degrees. All of my Plecos appeared to be doing fine (until this incident). They all were showing signs of growth, and, with the exception of the L46 Zebra (who liked to stay hidden), I would see them moving about peacefully in the tank.

I want to thank everyone for your kind thoughts.... Yes... I've read some of those horror stories too.
 
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