Initiating breeding

[African_Fever]

I've been thinking lately about some of the rays that are considered 'hard to breed', and I've been wondering if it's a combination of getting both the male and female in the mood, or if it's preferrentially one or the other that doesn't instigate or allow the breeding to occur.

There seem to be more and more hybrids appearing all the time, and I'm wondering when they're paired with motoro's if it's a female motoro or a male motoro in most instances? What I'm thinking is that since motoro's are easy to breed in relation to other rays, and males being males, that it's much easier to get say a male leo to breed a female motoro than a male motoro to breed a female leo. I'm just thinking aloud that maybe using motoro females as 'practice' for other species males might help them get it right with their own species when all other attempts at breeding them fail (kind of like slaying a few dragons to get to the princess ).

Also, are there any noticeable trends as far as coloration goes when crossing two rays; ie. male leos and female henlei generally produce a more spotted ray, and male henlei and female leos generally produce a more eclipse ray? (this is completely fictitious and just made up as an example) I think it would definitely be interesting to attempt to track to see if color is sex-linked in any way.

 

[FishDog]

I have a male motoro and a male castexi in a tank with a female castexi a female flower and 2 female motoros. In about 1 1/2 years I will let you know what happens. Your idea makes you think it could happen.

 

[Miles]

Kyle, I've always wondered the same things..

I think in most instances, especially pre-planned, people will use female Motoros.. Alot of the hybridization at the ray farms in Asia use female Motoro and Castexi for their increase birthing capacity and prolific nature..

Also if you look into the Liger/Tigon breeding process.. one would have to say that using a male that is traditionally smaller in max size (P14), and crossing it with a female of another larger species (Otorongo) would produce a smaller offspring with an incredible amount of spots.

I am not sure about the males and females producing different looking types of offspring, but I am interested to know.. would be nice to run some control tests, or have one of the asian breeders join MFK. I know that females pass-on different DNA to offspring that the males don't, so it pass on different pattern traits, too?

 

[Nic]

Kyle, I've always wondered the same things..

I think in most instances, especially pre-planned, people will use female Motoros.. Alot of the hybridization at the ray farms in Asia use female Motoro and Castexi for their increase birthing capacity and prolific nature..

Also if you look into the Liger/Tigon breeding process.. one would have to say that using a male that is traditionally smaller in max size (P14), and crossing it with a female of another larger species (Otorongo) would produce a smaller offspring with an incredible amount of spots.

I am not sure about the males and females producing different looking types of offspring, but I am interested to know.. would be nice to run some control tests, or have one of the asian breeders join MFK. I know that females pass-on different DNA to offspring that the males don't, so it pass on different pattern traits, too?

i think even if a breeder joined he wouldnt tell us anything... fear of a trade secret released