INTERBREEDING RAYS?

[keepinfish]

So, say you have a pair of motoro's and the both share the same father, but have different mothers and they mated, would there be a good chance of deformities or having a unhealthy ray? Just wondered how close rays can be to be considered inbred, or if it really matters.?

 

[csx4236]

Any inbreeding could lead to problems.

 

[spotfin]

I would guess that this happens on occasion in the wild. Although possible, I don't think there would be a "good chance" of deformities or having an unhealthy ray.

 

[keepinfish]

I would guess that this happens on occasion in the wild. Although possible, I don't think there would be a "good chance" of deformities or having an unhealthy ray.

Well i was thinking about how easy this could happen, or a pup getting bred back with one of the parents or even a grandparent....etc.

This could make it possible to breed the certain traits you prefer in a ray back in...

 

[suckerfish]

possible albino outcome??

 

[rvrrays]

It happens all of the time with cichlids. Inbreeding is responsible for many of the beautiful traits that we see in discus today but, it also has it's downsides. Many breeds of dogs are plagued by joint issues and breathing problems that are caused by inbreeding. Responsible breeders are very picky about their breeding stock.

Inbreeding fish one step (a female pup back to it's father) is not going to cause any major issues. However, it is not something that you want to do often, if at all.

Colin

 

[keepinfish]

It happens all of the time with cichlids. Inbreeding is responsible for many of the beautiful traits that we see in discus today but, it also has it's downsides. Many breeds of dogs are plagued by joint issues and breathing problems that are caused by inbreeding. Responsible breeders are very picky about their breeding stock.

Inbreeding fish one step (a female pup back to it's father) is not going to cause any major issues. However, it is not something that you want to do often, if at all.

Colin

have you done it? has anybody seen any negative outcome?

 

[DB junkie]

Don't inbreed them. Knowingly doing that is just wrong. It is your responsibility as a ray keeper to insure this doesn't happen. Unless you plan on never selling any of them.

I see people getting rays all the time with multiples from the same family. I swear that some don't think ahead to the possibility that if kept in the same tank they will eventually breed.

Just my 2 pennies.

 

[keepinfish]

Don't inbreed them. Knowingly doing that is just wrong. It is your responsibility as a ray keeper to insure this doesn't happen. Unless you plan on never selling any of them.

I see people getting rays all the time with multiples from the same family. I swear that some don't think ahead to the possibility that if kept in the same tank they will eventually breed.

Just my 2 pennies.

I AM NOT PLANNING ON DOING IT, WAS JUST WONDERING IF BREEDERS LET IT HAPPEN THOUGH.??

 

[payara]

knowing you wont do it, this is my opinion.

it is our jobs as fishkeepers to keep the healthiest bloodlines and not pollute them in any way. be it a p14 or a motoro inbreeding will have no positive effects. in the case of hens, leos, p14, ect... if i where to pay $1000.00 +++ on a fish i would be very upset if it was not the most healthy fish possible.

especially as what we have in the way of brazil stock may be what we will always have, inbreeding needs to be kept to an absolute minimum. this same logic could be applied to hybrids too.
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there are a few exeptions. as with Frank's and h20's albinos inbreeding is a necessary evil. but with very very careful breeding by people who know what they are doing health issues can be kept to a minimum. but anyone who where to buy these rays should be informed of exactly what their history is.

but inbreeding just because we do not want to spend the extra money to buy an unrelated fish should never happen.