An interesting catfish I’ve received, purchased a Niger catfish from a local importer but accidentally received this (presumably rarer) fish instead.
Interesting find: Hemidoras morrisi
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I think you may find that that fish is actually Nemadoras elongatus from the whiskers. Happy for others to give an opinion but another nice find.
Are you certain?
Here are two specimens from Aquarium Glaser, mine looks near identical to the bottom one which is indeed hemidoras morrisi, but also curious what others say
Well,which one is this? This is a vendor's photo of what he is calling a blue ripsaw.
No not certain at all!
The Top photo at aquarium glaser looks more like nemadoras. The bottom one and yours look more like Hemidoras stuebelii but some of the photos for stuebelii and morrisi and to some extent nemadoras seem to be mixed up and used for each on fishbase, planetcatfish and internet generally.
Update on this guy, unexpectedly passed today. Came to the surface breathing heavily yesterday, other fish are completely fine and params tested appropriately. Any idea what may have happened?
Latent illnesses happen. Selective ones do too, albeit it may be too early to state the selectivity.
The vendor photo (looks to be Exotic Fish Shop) shows a very thin, emaciated fish, which is sadly typical of the condition of the Doradids brought into the US for sale. Yours in the OP looks much better but we don't know if this is how you received it or this is after you had fattened it up a bit.
Only very general thoughts I could offer because overall little info had been given. For instance, how the fish behaved all this time from arrival and how specifically in the weeks before the passing, have all the water parameters been within the known and reasonable range for this species, any new fish or plants introduced, photos of the dead fish, etc.
Often this can be moot anyway as in general it is pretty hard to diagnose fish ailments and in particular without much experience, without a microscope and knowledge.
The vendor photo (looks to be Exotic Fish Shop) shows a very thin, emaciated fish, which is sadly typical of the condition of the Doradids brought into the US for sale. Yours in the OP looks much better but we don't know if this is how you received it or this is after you had fattened it up a bit.
Only very general thoughts I could offer because overall little info had been given. For instance, how the fish behaved all this time from arrival and how specifically in the weeks before the passing, have all the water parameters been within the known and reasonable range for this species, any new fish or plants introduced, photos of the dead fish, etc.
Often this can be moot anyway as in general it is pretty hard to diagnose fish ailments and in particular without much experience, without a microscope and knowledge.
Well, to lay everything out, the fish came in very skinny around the date I first posted this. I fattened it up very quick though. After that it was extremely cryptic and only appear once a month or so when I spy on the tank at night. Unsure if this is normal for this species.
As of around 6 days before this incident, I noticed ich on my clown loaches, this has likely been around for a while. I began quarter dosing formalin with no major issues coming from the other fish. I actually saw this guy come out to eat within that time.
randomly yesterday the fish came to the surface breathing very heavy. I suppose it could be the medication but wouldn’t it have harmed the fish earlier? Regardless, I am upset. I saved the fish’s body to make a dry specimen similar to what you can do with a pleco. I will see how it turns out.
Mmmmmm, formalin for ich???
I only know of two types of Formalin.
The first a mix for koi and pond fish which is high concentration and extremely hard to dose in tanks. And the second a brand name for Formaldehyde.
Neither of which would be a treatment for ich in freshwater tropical fish and especially in clown loach or scaleless fish in my opinion.
Formalin is ideally a bath solution for parasites in koi and whilst it can be used for ich you would need to massively increase aeration in warm water as it depleats the oxygen content and generally if not a bath I would use it in a reduced concentration mix with malachite green.
I have never heard of formalin use in tropical tanks as an in tank treatment.
Obviously you may have a brand for tropical fish I am unaware of, maybe if you could post a picture of the bottle.
Formalin if formaldehyde kills algae which in turn can alter the nitrites, but also can continue to effect oxygen depletion and throughout use and for time afterwards you would need to have heavy aeration.
I only know of two types of Formalin.
The first a mix for koi and pond fish which is high concentration and extremely hard to dose in tanks. And the second a brand name for Formaldehyde.
Neither of which would be a treatment for ich in freshwater tropical fish and especially in clown loach or scaleless fish in my opinion.
Formalin is ideally a bath solution for parasites in koi and whilst it can be used for ich you would need to massively increase aeration in warm water as it depleats the oxygen content and generally if not a bath I would use it in a reduced concentration mix with malachite green.
I have never heard of formalin use in tropical tanks as an in tank treatment.
Obviously you may have a brand for tropical fish I am unaware of, maybe if you could post a picture of the bottle.
Formalin if formaldehyde kills algae which in turn can alter the nitrites, but also can continue to effect oxygen depletion and throughout use and for time afterwards you would need to have heavy aeration.