Iridescent Shark Runt - Advice?

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A couple months ago I got two 2" albino iridescent sharks, one of them is perfectly healthy and is now about 4-5". The other hasn't gotten longer at all, but his stomach has gotten big and bulbous. He still eats and it seems that every bit of it just goes to his gut - literally. He's a pretty ugly little fish, but it's starting to look like he's uncomfortable. Even if he's not in pain yet, i feel like it's inevitable. Does anyone have any advice? I don't want him to suffer so should I just put him down now before the inevitable suffering? Or do I just leave him be?
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I think there are many suppositions in your story, some ungrounded. If you can separate the fish, I'd recommend it to see if the tummy will go back to normal. It may be simply overeating.

If it is eating, it is most likely comfortable. This is the usual gauge, not the "looks".

I don't see a cause for killing it after two months. I do see a cause to be at least inquisitive and, with time, observation and maybe experimentation, try to figure out what's up with it, and report it here. Then you'd learn something and we'd learn something with you, IMHO. Otherwise, you will kill a fish on supposition and not learn much.
 
Thanks for the response. To clarify, I wasn't being literal when I said a couple months ago, I probably should've said a few, because it's been almost 5 months. Also, I'm not itching to kill the fish or anything, I was just asking if anyone who knows more than me would recommend that as the humane course of action.

That being said. I am 100% certain it's not from overeating. His only tankmates are 2 other ID's that eat sinking pellets that are too large for him to fit in his mouth, and they don't like them once they get soft. I've paid close attention to this in the time I've had him. So it's been very easy to control his eating, since he only eats when I deliberately break up the pellets. Also, it's been a long gradual process. While the other albino grew healthily, he stayed the same size in all ways except for a gradual expansion of his belly. It has been a long gradual growth, with absolutely no growth whatsoever to the rest of his body. I know the picture doesn't quite capture it, but in person it is clear that the stomach (and other more subtle aspects of the fish) is a result of a deformity.

Again, I'm not eager to put him down... I just don't want him, or any of my fish, to suffer. And recently his stomach has gotten to the point where it's become clear he's not going to live a very long life, so I thought I would post and get some more experienced input. If it's best to pay attention to whether he eats or not then I'll do that. If there are any other cues I should be looking for I'd appreciate the help.
 
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Hey, bro, no problem. I was merely stating my first impressions, is all. Sorry, if it read a bit harsh, rather it was curt.

Determining whether a fish is suffering is not easy. Even scientists appear to not agree, to not know for sure how and when fish feel pain and what kind of pain. Their nervous system is pretty primitive but their psyche, if there is such a thing, appears to be a great unknown. Pain cognition in fish is very hard to study.

IME or rather IMO, when fish eats, it's not in pain. When it does not eat, it becomes hard to say. When the symptoms of a disease are visible and prominent, it may be in pain or discomfort.

TBH though, I am probably just more cruel than you are. I almost never put down any fish, probably maybe a few times out of, say, a thousand fish I had lost, always observing, pondering why and trying to learn, and always hoping to the end it will pull through even if it looks like it will require a miracle. Often times, I am not just idling and watching a fish slowly die. I am doing something, let it be playing with water, tank mates, administering meds, etc.

My most valuable and practical experience and knowledge are paid for by thousands fish illnesses and deaths. I'm more than sure many would judge me and disagree. I just hope there is room for everyone on this great forum of ours.

Now you probably understand better why I said what I said. Just a different vantage point. No judgment.

As for your IDS, I'd not feed it for a few (haha...) weeks and see what happens.

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BTW, an English lesson for me. Evaluate my present conviction that:

a few = 2-3
several = 3-4
handful = 4-6
half a dozen = 5-7
etc.

Yes? No?

At least when I used to write scientific articles in the field of physical chemistry, this is the rule my peer scientists and I used for "a few" and "several".
 
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I say remove the runt from the tank and feed him a diet of fish flakes and little pieces of fish fillet,as these are easier on fish with poor digestion,u can also experiment with spirulina.
 
Yeah I moved him to his own 20 gal about a week ago, per Viktor's advice. He hasn't eaten since being in the new tank, and there hasn't been any change in the appearance of his stomach. Soon I will start feeding him and I probably will experiment with different foods to see if it helps. Will keep you updated
 
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thebiggerthebetter thebiggerthebetter By the way, you're definitely accurate with the values of "few," "handful," etc... Though the term "couple" seems to be used less literally and more often than not is meant as a few, at least where I live in NY and in California where I used to live
 
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