Is this geophagus surinamensis

[Bertie07]

as the title says can you if my geo, I got him today at my lfs and was labelled as geophagus surinamensis

 

[PhishMon84]

I dont believe these are commonly exported and any LFS I’ve seen with any geophagus in stock (aside from red heads) seems to label them all as Surinamenis regardless of species.
I’m not saying it isn’t that but I’d want to know the source and I’d be skeptical

 

[Stanzzzz7]

+1 on above.
They are a very rare fish in the hobby. I did hear a few were about in Europe recently but I would expect them to be rather pricey.
The first pic shows a y bar and a black gill mark.
This is normally indicative of Dicrozoster.

 

[Bertie07]

I looked up geophagus dicrozoster and I think it might be that, I thought it was too good to be true that it was surinamensis but still a nice species and will have to get a group of them now

 

[Stanzzzz7]

I looked up geophagus dicrozoster and I think it might be that, I thought it was too good to be true that it was surinamensis but still a nice species and will have to get a group of them now

Identifying geos is not my strong point so don't take my word for it.Maybe some of the Geo fanatics will chime in.
I can't see a black mark in the gill plate on the other pics. Is there a black stripe on the gill cover?

 

[Bertie07]

Identifying geos is not my strong point so don't take my word for it.Maybe some of the Geo fanatics will chime in.
I can't see a black mark in the gill plate on the other pics. Is there a black stripe on the gill cover?

There isn’t a black mark over the hill plate that is noticeable

 

[Stanzzzz7]

There isn’t a black mark over the hill plate that is noticeable

It won't be Dicrozoster then,nor winemilleri or brachyraphys.
I would guess at Abalios.

 

[Bertie07]

If it was abalios how big would it get and what’s there temperament, there are very different max sizes on google. Some saying 10” and some saying 5”.

 

[BMac91]

+1 on above.
They are a very rare fish in the hobby. I did hear a few were about in Europe recently but I would expect them to be rather pricey.
The first pic shows a y bar and a black gill mark.
This is normally indicative of Dicrozoster.

Rapps has some F1 treu Surinamensis in stock.

If it was abalios how big would it get and what’s there temperament, there are very different max sizes on google. Some saying 10” and some saying 5”.

10" would be on the high side for Abalios, you'll more than likely fall between the 5-10" and end up with them around 7 or 8" at full grown, if you give them a well varied diet and consistent clean water, you shouldn't have any issues with them.