IS THIS ICH!? OR SOME KIND OF FUNGUS HELP!!!

[Phongstuh]

i was changing the water today and noticed that my endli wasnt moving around much, hes usually very skittish... and i noticed alot of small looking particles in my water and it looked like it was swimming?! idk what it was so i quarantined both my bichir into nursing tanks and theyre doing fine cept zeus =[ he really is worrying me i had him when he was tiny with his outer gills hes no longer has them and is about 6-7 inches please help me figure out what this is and in the process he also hopped out the nursing tank and was all over my dirty floor with my very dirty rag and made contact with it =[

 

[Phongstuh]

the white dots are on top of him and on his head

 

[mrwinkle]

It may be fungal. need a clearer pic. but for right now I would use the standard heat/salt method until you get a better diagnosis.

 

[Phongstuh]

i hope thats all =[ i cant get any more pics till later today i hope he is going to be fine

 

[Phongstuh]

could it be damage to slime coat when he hopped out?

 

[JamesF]

That's the kind of information that is considered need to know in the first post.
If he jumped tank, then it may be an infection (either bacterial or fungal) or it may just be an area with higher slime production due to scrapes. Either way, keep the water clean, and feed him well if he'll eat and see how it progresses.

 

[Mark Amazon]

Hard to say. I had a crazy Ornatipinnis size 1' it tried to jump the tank. But the hood was on and it cut it self to pieces on the lamp reflectors. I had to give it away to a better place. Please check if it is jumping and scrapes it self.

If not... Perhaps fungus ... Need salt and heat

 

[Pomatomus]

Not Ich and I'm 99% sure it's not fungus. Most "fungi" that affect fish aren't actually caused by a fungus. Usually it's a bacterial infection. Columnaris is often diagnosed as fungus, and fin/tail rot is often called a fungus as well, even though it's usually pseudomonas/aeromonas bacteria. The white fuzzy stuff you see on uneaten food (saprolegnia) isn't even a true fungus, but it is considered a "water mold".

Bichirs are highly resistant to most fish pathogens. Especially ich. However, they are highly susceptible to Macrogyrodactylus polypteri. Luckily this pretty much only affects bichirs and it's pretty easy to spot. Do the patches look fuzzy or raised at all?

From the pics it looks like missing scales or a slime coat issue, but make sure it isn't macrogyrodactylus polypteri or columnaris.

 

[Phongstuh]

hes all well and eating fine now thanks much for help! and suggestions