It's been awhile...growth Rates, salt water tolerance, excitement...

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I used to post on here a bit but haven’t in a good while. I have been having a few questions and thoughts lately, as well as some big tank changes coming up, so its got me coming to you guys for input.

1) What are the growth rates for Dovii and Peacock bass? I recently purchased these from Rapp’s, Dovii is about 5” and Pbass around 4”, both are eating great (pellets and live) the Pbass has started to show its color already, while the Dovii remains timid (I know right). This is only week 2, but I’m curios is they will get big enough by april (6+ inches) to go into the 180g (with 3 fish bigger than 10”) or if I should hold off until June-July for the tank I am building in basement (9+ft Wide, 30” F2B, 3ft tall) which I already have built, just waiting for warmer weather to seal and paint and to buy glass (I don’t want that expensive beast sitting around until I’m ready to install).

2) I have a female Salvini that has recently paired off with a Male Con. They once fought non-stop, and the salvini actually had damaged the Con to the point of separation, but when I re-added him to the tank, they fought but by the next morning they had paired and taken over half the tank. Now I’m not a big fan of Hybrids normally, but I must admit the Coloration in my Salvini and long fins of the Male Con make me really excited to see how the babies turn out. Anybody know of a good source for pics of this cross?

3) I have been reading a lot lately on the CA’s saltwater tolerance, and it seems that most have some tolerance (up to brackish) but anything further I just find that they died or had “low” survival rates. Does anybody know of any cases other than Mayans and Blackbelts, of Central Americans or even South Americans surviving the transition in extremely long drawn out processes? Particularly interested in the Green Texas and Nicaragua cichlids. I would love to have them in a tank with some marine preds.

4) I know its not looked well upon here, but I do feed me fish live food (rosy reds and guppies after quarantine). I have noticed that my adult fish have stopped caring about the live food anymore, and its only the juvenile (4-6&#8221;) fish that are going after them. Not to mention, none of my fish will touch small cichlids as food anymore, I used to occasionally feed them convict babies, until one survived and became a beast (the one now paired off). My nephew had a bunch of baby African cichlids that nobody would take, so I told him he could put them in my tank as food. That was 2 weeks ago, now I have Mbuna&#8217;s and Jewels <1&#8221; swimming right in front of my 12&#8221; Oscars mouth, 10&#8221; Male Jacks mouth and all the others without even the slightest reaction and they are hungry because they all swarm the top for food when I open the lid. Its actually really pretty.

5) Bichirs&#8230;specifically Sengel Bichirs. Anybody have any experience with them just not growing or barely growing. I&#8217;ve had the thing for over a year and a half any its only about 6&#8221;, its in a 180 with not only much bigger fish (big enough to eat it if they paid him any attention, which they don&#8217;t) but fish its started out with while they where babies and have become monsters. It eats like Sumo Sid from GPK&#8217;s, shrimp pellets, massivore broken up, shrimp, raw fish and even the occasional guppy, and will eat until its obese, just hardly grows.

6) My fish (If your curious): in two 180&#8217;s, a 125, a 120 and two 75&#8217;s
1) 10&#8221; Male Jack Dempsey (paired)
2) 6&#8221; Female Jack Dempsey (paired)
3) 7&#8221; Texas (Male)
4) 7&#8221; Nicaragua (Male)
5) 12&#8221; Tiger Oscar
6) 5&#8221; Dovii
7) 4&#8221; Pbass
8) 6&#8221; Uaru
9) 7&#8221; Severum (Male)
10) 4&#8221; Salvini (Female)
11) 3.5&#8221; Convict (Male)
12) 5&#8221; Suranmesis Geo (I cant recall the name)
13) 7&#8221; Bluegill Sunfish (Sach&#8217;s Fish)
14) 5&#8221; Green Sunfish (zimmerman&#8217;s fish)
15) 4&#8221; LA Longear Sunfish (zimmermans fish)
16) 8&#8221; Brow Bullhead Catfish (Sach&#8217;s Fish)
17) 12&#8221; Lima Shovelnose catfish
18) 6&#8221; Striped Raphael Catfish
19) 8&#8221; African featherfin Catfish
20) 9&#8221; Hi-Fin Pleco
21) 5&#8221; Hi-fin Pleco
22) 7&#8221; Senegel Bichir

Not trying to be rude, but I am well versed in water parameters and pretty much anything freshwater related as well as generally compatibility concerns, but ALL my fish have been together forever and continuous aggression is not an issue, I also switch up their tanks a lot so they have all lived together.
 
Wow interesting read you have lots going on in your life!

2. I have 2 female salvini´s and they are really really good at holding their own. my red devil likes to own the tank but he wont go near the biggest salvini, she flares up at him and he leaves her alone. this salvini has the most bright yellow body and is starting to gain more red. I would be amazed if she paired up with one of my cichlids because she has really good genes. as for the devil? i have no clue what sex it is, my guess is male because it owns the tank. If you find pics of salvini and convict cross please pm them to me too :D

3. I was only aware of mayans. I heard that some thai companys have made SW FH and BP´s but we cant really trust that because I have yet to ever hear of one being owned. I think they are in production or something. I think it would be amazing to have a large cichlid or two in a tank with trigger fish, a porcupine puffer, and maybe a panther grouper.

4. the display tank in my old LFS was like this, they threw in a bunch of Nicaragua cichlids and the Jade eye cichlids that I bred (and gave to them) all the fish in the tank 16" pearsii x2, a big green terror, and a bunch of other large cichlids completely ignored them. all along the background of the tank was these small cichlids living in their own little community.

5. My bichir showed great growth rates when I got him but hes had a sore on his side for a while thats swollen and it doesnt seem to be going away, hes grown very little since this.
 
Off topic...but you have some pretty good livestock and I'm hoping you could post up some pics of your setups
 
Wow. thats alot. ok first pbass and dovii should be medium growers. luckily ur bass is eating pellet so a hkgh qualtiy pellet would help. i think they will reach ur goal of 6" at ur set date but by july perhpas. the dovii maybe faster. the salvini con cross i have seen and its nothing to marvell at. the color are drab ur not going to get yellow cons with long fins lol. As for the live food. yes adults will usually stop being such good hunters. i have the saem thing in my tank the big guys dont feel the need for the chase anymore. try bigger live food if you must.and not all bichirs are made equal. mine also just stopped at 6" and i had one at 9" who was still growing. maybe the sex factor. Nice stock by the way and welcome back :)
 
as for the Sengel Bichirs you may wanna ask in the bichir forum, some people really know those fish there, specially Jamef but anyway in my experience with Sengels they just grow really slowly, i remember thinking after several months "what? why is this fish not growing?" it eventually did, just took a while, at least that was my experience
 
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