jardini and other fish.

[flemming]

saterday,i was in a pet-shop.
they sold some jardinis around 2inch over there.
i like them that much thait i nearly had buyed one of them.
i always taught you can't keep arowana's with other fish.
until some one told you can some times.
i would like to try a jardini with 2 polypterus senagalus 1polypterus orntattipinnis,and 3 indo datnioides.
how big is the chance of succes?
should i try it anyway?

 

[KenyanSandBoa]

Well Jardinis are the toughest to keep with tankmates, but I have personally been one of the luck ones. I think you may have a good chance with that selection of fish though because the bichirs aren't going to be "free swimming" like a lot of other species.

I have had luck with dats in with my Jardini...as well as bichirs and catfish. The only time I run into aggression problems is durring feeding time. As long as I make sure he eats first everything is fine.

 

[KaraJo]

it is a chance you have to be willing to take. at first, there may be no problems at all, but as the jar gets bigger, they are known to have terrible agression issues. I think the dats could end up being a problem, and possibly the bichirs too. It is just a risk you have to be willing to take.

you can also try reading this:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23838

 

[Justin94565]

Just a risk you have to be willing to take exactly.

 

[cenecker]

There are many of us (myself included) who have success keeping jars with tankmates...but your results may vary...

 

[flemming]

thnx for the reply,i now much more now i only gut some questions remaining:
how fast grows a jardini?
when do you see it goes wrong?.
i wanna try keep him in a 83gallon tank.
on the link I found ireply from somebuddy how keep a jardini with other fish by have a lot of driftwood.
that an idea i like.

 

[henward]

The jardinii grows fast. I mean from 2 inches, it will be 5 inches in couple of months if fed daily. in 1 year, you should see your jardinii be a foot long! at this size, you might think its nto tooo big but its think and strong, meaning it can mash other fish in the tank. My one killed a polypterus senegalus. killed a pleco too.
it lives with tinfoil barb, flagtail and metynis. they are too fast and the jardinii cannot catch them, anything else will be killed or anything thats big enough to be competition for food.

dont put toooo much driftwood. while chasing other fish, the jardinii might injure itself and pop an eye.
the thing is, if you put other fish, there is a great chance they will die. you just hvae to take that risk.
i am not sure where you are if fish is cheap, in new zealand, polypterus ornatipinis is 100$ each! the average minimum wage in this country is 11.25 per hour. jsut to give a approximate comparison.

 

[KenyanSandBoa]

thnx for the reply,i now much more now i only gut some questions remaining:
how fast grows a jardini?
when do you see it goes wrong?.
i wanna try keep him in a 83gallon tank.
on the link I found ireply from somebuddy how keep a jardini with other fish by have a lot of driftwood.
that an idea i like.

Jars can bulk up to the one foot mark pretty quickly...definitely within the first year. It seems that Jardinis start to show their true attitude once they hit the 8" mark...until then you can't truly know if your Jar will tolerate tankmates.

What are the dimensions on the 83 gallon? You could probably keep him in there for a little while, given its footprint is large enough, but definitely plan on upgrading that tank. Jardinis are not as flexible as silvers or blacks so it is very important to get a tank with the largest width and length to facilitate turning. Plan on a tank with a 2 foot width...MINIMUM...but I would still plan on upgrading to something larger if you plan on growing him out to max captive size.

I use the driftwood method myself. The key is not to get any driftwood that is going to take up a lot of the free swimming space of the tank. Use short pieces like bog wood or hollowed out trees (STERILIZED). Keep in mind that this will also increase the amount of maintenance on the tank becuase you will have to move the wood around to get to all the waste and excess foods that may be under them.

 

[flemming]

the size of the tank is 125x50x50 in cm.
i don't now of i should buy a jardini.
from my parents i can't get a bigger tank.

 

[pwmin]

if you can't get a bigger tank, don't. it's that simple. hard to resist not buying one, but you must. that is all IMHO, of course