Just inherited a 550g tank... need filter ideas

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So my parents just bought a new house and in the basement is a 550g+ tank built into the wall. It has a small fish room behind it which makes things nice.

Up until this point the largest tank I have maintained was a 90g tank and have used HOB and cannister filters.

The existing filter in this setup is a 55g rain drum which is full of bio-balls. The filter is fed by two standpipes in the tank. It is basically a big wet / dry filter. What confuses me is that there are two drain pipes on the bottom of the barrel that discharge into a small 35g sump and the pump returns the water from there back into the tank.

In my mind this seems easily susceptible to flooding if the pump were to ever go out. The stand pipes are about and inch or two from where the surface of the water would be. Given the dimensions of the tank (7'x3.5'x3.5') that is about 30 gallons of drainage back into the filter which is a little too close for comfort IMO.

I don't have any room for equipment underneath the tank and I MIGHT be able to fit another rain barrel beside the current one so I am a little restricted by the space I can use.

I was thinking of connecting the current rain barrel to another barrel that will serve as a settling tank and additional reservoir in case of pump failure. I would like to have a UV stage at some point in the system as well but I'm not sure where it would fit in in this situation.

Another option I was thinking of would be to use some equipment from the pond world and get an enclosed bead filter system which seems to work well, has low space requirements and includes the UV filter internally.

Any new ideas, suggestions or recommendations? I plan on stocking the tank with various African cichlids.
 
:mwave::welcome::mwave:

And congrats on the new tank.

Shoot us some pix for better answers.

But I think your on the right track.

Is there a floor drain near? (for backwashing bead filter).

Was this set up as a S/W a one time?

The UV should be last in line on the return (to keep it clean among other things).

Do you have a budget to work within?

Dr Joe

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Dr Joe;1941229; said:
And congrats on the new tank.
Thanks! I plan on keeping the MFK community up to date on my progress so I am pretty excited to get started.

Shoot us some pix for better answers.
I will try to get some next time I visit them. I live an hour away and can't get up there for another two weeks due to work.

Is there a floor drain near? (for backwashing bead filter).
Yes, the tank looks to be well plumbed and there are multiple drains available.

Was this set up as a S/W a one time?
Yes. I believe the original owner of the house had a shark. But it looks like it has been used as a freshwater since then by the family that lived there before my parents bought it. The house has been vacant for almost two years so a lot of cleaning is needed.

Do you have a budget to work within?
Kinda, not really. :) I know how out of control this hobby can get with all the equipment out there so I want to keep it in check. If I can DIY something I will make the attempt but I am not against buying equipment if I need to. Thats why I like the rain barrel idea, they are cheap and simple.
 
"I will try to get some next time I visit them. I live an hour away and can't get up there for another two weeks due to work."

ONLY an hour!?! What do you do ...sleep at night?! I see a new (and closer) job in your future :D.

If you read the DIY sections a little you'll see I'm a big fan of DIY (it's what I do) and barrel filters are great if you have the space.

Dr Joe

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Congrats! Cant wait for updates....
 
nice :)
 
Thanks guys.

I just helped them move in this weekend and only got enough of a look to get my brain going. Next time I am there I will be able to get my hands dirty and explore. I'll take a bunch of pics of what is there so we can get a better idea of what it looks like.
 
I'm back...

I got a few quick pictures but I think I found a major issue that I think might be a deal breaker. :cry:

It looks to me like the tank may have leaked at one point and now there is a real bad case of mold on the back corner on the tank. (see pics)

The tank is sealed with epoxy at the moment and I don't have the option of tearing it down and rebuilding due to space restrictions and the basement is already finished. Also, I highly doubt my parents (or dog) would appreciate epoxy fumes in the house.

I researched some options last night and I found this product that might work to seal the thing.

http://www.howtowaterproof.com/bluemax.htm

I am going to call the company tomorrow to find out how well it will bond to epoxy. I figure if I sand the existing epoxy it will create a decent bond. If I can coat the inside and out with this product I think it might work well.

Does anyone have any ideas on how I could waterproof this thing without destroying it or killing my family in the process? ;)

Structurally this tank is sound and built solid. If I can re-seal with something that is safe to use indoors or with moderate ventilation I am good. I plan on resealing the glass as well but that is less of an issue.

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