Ok Guys, I have been out of town, so that's why I have not reponded. All of these fish were caught in the Rio Uruguay drianage around Bella Union, where there are no malabaricus. There are two species of green Hoplias, H. lacerdae and an even rarer undiscribed species. I had our guide Felipe Cantera look at all my Hoplias and confirm they were H. lacerdae. I will go with his identification any day. I had 7 and they all looked alike to me. At worse cause senerio they are the rarer undiscribed species. But most definantly not malabaricus. Ken