lesson learned: large jardini could get PA from shrimp shells

[arodini]

just to share my experience...

so i've been feeding my 20" jar whole shrimps with shell on (tail spikes removed of course) and stuffed with sticks, and things have been fine for quite a long while. well recently i bought a large batch of new shrimps for a good price ($3.29/lb!) and after a couple of weeks of feedings, i started noticing PA (protruding anus) on my jar. apparently, this batch of shrimps have harder shells than the ones i usually use which i initially thought would be OK since the jar is quite big now. WRONG!!!

the fish has been put on strict diet for 4 days now and the condition has been improving. so not only spikes but also hard shells could do damages. just make sure shrimps you use don't have hard shells or if so remove them first.

 

[leeishom]

Is that your jar. as a avi? Nice; Reddish from all the prawns?

 

[B.Ho]

Is PA when the anus area is red and looks like its poop is stuck? My aro has that. And i was wondering what it was.

 

[sbuse]

idk i have fed all my aros shell on shrimp with the tail spikes and never have had any issues...do think that it could just be from a presurvative or something along those lines or are you just asuming that it was the "harder" shells...as you state that is was cheaper it could also have been older/stale as that can be why it is ill and also why it was on sale...cooking will kill most bactirias for us so the older food isn't as bad for us to eat, but a fish just gets it direct so that is another possibility...

 

[arodini]

idk i have fed all my aros shell on shrimp with the tail spikes and never have had any issues...do think that it could just be from a presurvative or something along those lines or are you just asuming that it was the "harder" shells...as you state that is was cheaper it could also have been older/stale as that can be why it is ill and also why it was on sale...cooking will kill most bactirias for us so the older food isn't as bad for us to eat, but a fish just gets it direct so that is another possibility...

honestly i can't really prove that the shrimp shells are the culprit for sure, but can't think of anything else. the deal was not from the shrimps being old stocks or overstocking, but because it was a smaller size with heads on and the backs not cut/cleaned. it could be from something else with the shrimps and not the shells, but who knows. i was just throwing my observations out there for what it's worth...

Is that your jar. as a avi? Nice; Reddish from all the prawns?

yes, it's my 20" jar in the avatar. but that is not his true color - it's just the lighting/camera effect... i still love him though. been raising him from 2.5" baby.

Is PA when the anus area is red and looks like its poop is stuck? My aro has that. And i was wondering what it was.

yes, but there are different levels of severity though. some pictures online show really nasty swellings, but my jar's is not that bad...

 

[Kaya]

hey guys.. I feed prawn without shells to my aros.. generally a distended or protruding anus with white poop like stuff could be sign of a parasitic infection.. I lost one of my Oscars long back with same symptoms.. arodini.. not scaring you or anythin.. just keep a strict watch mate..

 

[sbuse]

honestly i can't really prove that the shrimp shells are the culprit for sure, but can't think of anything else. the deal was not from the shrimps being old stocks or overstocking, but because it was a smaller size with heads on and the backs not cut/cleaned. it could be from something else with the shrimps and not the shells, but who knows. i was just throwing my observations out there for what it's worth...

just a thought it could be more from somthing the shrimps were fed if they were a farmed shrimp...or it could be from something in the heads...the shell on shrimp i feed my fish is split back cleaned and without heads...it could have something to do with that...i just think that with aros eatting incects in the wild and that they have a strong enough digestive tract to desolve and extrac nutrients from insect exoskelotins...that i find it hard to belive that a shrimp/invert exoskelotin is to much for them to handel...but actualy more of something that we as keepers have made up to try and "protect" our fish from anything that my be "risky" if that makes sence...kinda like the "live foods are bad" theroy...they are predators and are designed to eat live foods...thats why it is often so hard to get them to eat other things...it's against their wiring...just my opinion though...