Lima Shovelnose catfish?

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Hey all.

I was wondering, what's the average size a Lima Shovelnose usually gets to in an aquarium? Also what's it's max potential size?
Also how long does it take to reach its potential size?
Also would it be safe with an Oscar?

The reason I ask, is this catfish was suggested for my 100 gallon tank ( dimensions: 48" L x 20" D x 24" H) on a different forum.

I thought I would ask you lot to be on the safe side.
 
Almost all won't be true limas and end being elongatos. Should get around a foot and should be fine for your tank.
 
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That's brilliant thanks. What are their eating habits? Do they tend to be shy when eating? Or are they agressive eaters?
 
Eat what ever fits in their mouth. Not too picky with food. Will take most foods. Not shy either and I've had one and not aggressive when eating.
 
That's good to hear. My Oscar is 3" long, and he is proper greedy, whether I put in cichlid pellets, krill or some other type of food, he greedily gobbles it down. Will I need to spot feed an Elongatus? Or would he be able to compete for food with an Oscar?
 
No need to spot feed. Definitely should be able to compete with the oscar. A lot of these "limas" come in bigger than 3 inches. So be careful....it may make a snack out of ur oscar.
 
Agree with the above. May expand a bit.

I was wondering, what's the average size a Lima Shovelnose usually gets to in an aquarium?
***If you are in the USA, chances are 99.99% your LSN is in fact a Sorubim elongatus with max size of ~1'. True Sorubim lima grow to 2'. Been seen in Europe mostly, 1-2 cases in the US reported here.

Also how long does it take to reach its potential size?
***From 3" to 8" in about 4-6 months, 10x slower from there.

Also would it be safe with an Oscar?
***IDK oscars that well. I imagine when an oscar exceeds 1', I'd be worried a bit perhaps even with a large LSN. Oscar can reach 1.5'.

What are their eating habits?
***When comfortable, they learn quickly to take cut fish and pellets IME.

Do they tend to be shy when eating?
***When comfortable, no. If stressed, yes.

Or are they agressive eaters?
***I'd say they feed very well if the competition isn't too boisterous. They don't need, nor eat as much food being stick-like versus other catfish / fish same length that are more full bodied.

Will I need to spot feed an Elongatus? Or would he be able to compete for food with an Oscar?
***Hard to say but I'd think you shouldn't have a problem, again, if your LSN is comfortable. In general, they are indeed shy and stressable fish. If the oscar bites and chases it, it may just get leftovers from the bottom as oscars are messy. Dim lights, vertical decorations / furniture, areas of calm water, company of kin, no bullying, pristine water, adequate aeration all help keep it comfy. They don't hide or don't hide much when comfortable either. Their preferred mode of hiding and ambush is mimicking a twig floating vertically in the vegetation, along wood, rocks, etc.
 
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I have one and would recommend them to anyone who has room for them! Super goofy and fun fish, seems to have no problems with more aggressive tankmates mine is actually one of my more aggressive eaters. fairly skittish fish but loves its worms and pellets. they can grow like weeds at first so watch your oscar. mine has gone from a skinny little 3" to a 9" beast in around 5 months. super fun fish though. Ive read that keeping a small group 3-5 can help make them less shy. not sure if youd have room for that though with an oscar in a 100. Ill second the suggestion for lots of aeration, mine was fairly sedentary then i added a new airpump and several large airstones for surface agitation and made a giant 38" spray bar and suddenly he was out swimming and active whenever the lights were dim.
 
I'm waiting to hear back from my LFS to see if they can get either the Lima or Elongatus. I'm leaning more towards the Elongatus, as it gets to around 12"
 
If you're in the US it will be elongatus. True Lima are very rare and there's really a slim chance any lfs will know the difference. They will swear up and down it's Lima and you'll still get elongatus
 
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