Anyone know? It was sold to me about a year ago as Loiselli, but lately I’m thinking it’s a Freddy. Every Loiselli I’ve had has a grey tone running up the top of its back.
Loiselli or Friedrichstalli?
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Parachormis loiselli no longer exists. They are all P. friedrichstalli.
So the real question is the fish P. friedrichstalli (formerly P. loseilli) or P. multifasciatus (what keepers knew as P. friendrichstalli).
My vote goes to P. multifasciatus
My vote goes to P. multifasciatus
Looks like what we used to call freddy (now multi) to me
The old Loisellei (guess it's a freddy now) has distinctive grey worming on the forehead and usually a lighter color
Here is an old Loisellei (or it was one at the time) that I owned, see the grey on forehead
The old Loisellei (guess it's a freddy now) has distinctive grey worming on the forehead and usually a lighter color
Here is an old Loisellei (or it was one at the time) that I owned, see the grey on forehead
Yeah that looks like the one I remember. Seems like mine is the old Freddy which is multi now. Thanks guys, glad I asked, the new stuff was interesting.
Here is the difference, according to the CRC.
multifasciatus differ s with the following traits, a)with a dorsal coloration on the flanks in loisellei above the 1st lateral line, forms a pinkish silver vermiculate pattern that almost covers the yellowish dark background base color in adults, particularly stronger in the forehead.
B) loiselle has an oval, higher body vs a shallow body in multifasciatus.
In my own opinion.... , how does anyone know what they had (at any point in time) if they got it from a LFS?
Just because it was labeled one or the other?
Maybe if you got one from Rapps who knew the catch point, then yes, its probably right.
But just because a LFS labeled one Freddy? or one loiselle?
I've been to LFSs that listed Tilapia as grammodes, or any Parachromis as a Jaguar, etc etc, so I take any name on a LFS tag, (unless I.D.ed by an expert) with a grain of salt.
multifasciatus differ s with the following traits, a)with a dorsal coloration on the flanks in loisellei above the 1st lateral line, forms a pinkish silver vermiculate pattern that almost covers the yellowish dark background base color in adults, particularly stronger in the forehead.
B) loiselle has an oval, higher body vs a shallow body in multifasciatus.
In my own opinion.... , how does anyone know what they had (at any point in time) if they got it from a LFS?
Just because it was labeled one or the other?
Maybe if you got one from Rapps who knew the catch point, then yes, its probably right.
But just because a LFS labeled one Freddy? or one loiselle?
I've been to LFSs that listed Tilapia as grammodes, or any Parachromis as a Jaguar, etc etc, so I take any name on a LFS tag, (unless I.D.ed by an expert) with a grain of salt.
I agree, LFS names are a total crap shoot. The fish I posted above came from Rapps, as a Loisellei. I believe the "pinkish silver vermiculate pattern" you described, and the grey worming I am talking about, are one in the same. I think this is probably the best method of differentiating the two