Lookin to fill out my CUC...

[KellyFrancis]

Current CUC:

10ish astrea snails
6ish dwarf hermits (blue and red leg)
1 coral banded shrimp
1 stomatella snail
1 emerald crab
2 nassarus snails

Looking at:

5 astrea snails
10 dwarf hermits (blue leg)
1 emerald crab
10 nassarus snails
2 fighting conch
1 porcelain crab
4 cerith snails
4 peppermint shrimp
2 chestnut turbo snails

and if I can find them, 5 or 6 ringed or money cowrie. (cyprae annulus or monetus, respectively)

Questions:

1. Will the CBS attack the peppermint shrimp in a 55 or is there enough room for everyone to be happy? And if I can find a reasonably priced Cleaner Shrimp, will the CBS attack him?
2. How many different crab species can I house in a 55? I found that emeralds are tolerant of each other online, but not sure of the rest. I did have a sally light foot crab for awhile but found him dead one day. I don't know if he had it out with the emerald or if something else happened. They seemed to get along fine while he was around...
3. Is that list of snails too much for the tank to feed?
4. I read that the fighting conchs won't climb the glass or rocks cuz they're too big and bulky, so they stick to the sand. So is two too many for mmm... 6ishx48 inches of sand? Says online they get to 3-4 inches...

Thank you for any advice and any nudging you can offer! I appreciate it!

 

[Otherone]

Mixing shrimp species usually not good, more than 2 shrimp (m+f) usually not good in smaller tanks, porclein crabs don't survive long without an anemone to host, if it survives any length of time it will be in a hole in the rocks - you really won't see it. Fighting conchs get large too large for your tank. Turbos get large and without a bunch of green algae to eat don't last long. Unleash a cowrie in your tank no hope of corals.

With that being said - spiney torques do well in established tanks and achieve a decent visible size an inch or two. Tiger conchs don't get that big and will do the samething as the fighting. 55 is probably only good for 1 tho.

Now 1 question for you - Do you have an iodine testkit + and iodine suppliment - shrimp + crabs use up a bunch when molting - insufficent levels spells doom for them.

 

[Ptrick125]

Current CUC:

10ish astrea snails
6ish dwarf hermits (blue and red leg)
1 coral banded shrimp
1 stomatella snail
1 emerald crab
2 nassarus snails

Looking at:

5 astrea snails
10 dwarf hermits (blue leg)
1 emerald crab
10 nassarus snails
2 fighting conch
1 porcelain crab
4 cerith snails
4 peppermint shrimp
2 chestnut turbo snails

and if I can find them, 5 or 6 ringed or money cowrie. (cyprae annulus or monetus, respectively)

Questions:

1. Will the CBS attack the peppermint shrimp in a 55 or is there enough room for everyone to be happy? And if I can find a reasonably priced Cleaner Shrimp, will the CBS attack him?
2. How many different crab species can I house in a 55? I found that emeralds are tolerant of each other online, but not sure of the rest. I did have a sally light foot crab for awhile but found him dead one day. I don't know if he had it out with the emerald or if something else happened. They seemed to get along fine while he was around...
3. Is that list of snails too much for the tank to feed?
4. I read that the fighting conchs won't climb the glass or rocks cuz they're too big and bulky, so they stick to the sand. So is two too many for mmm... 6ishx48 inches of sand? Says online they get to 3-4 inches...

Thank you for any advice and any nudging you can offer! I appreciate it!

I think you can keep that many snails if you put a lettuce clip with some romaine or greens in it...


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[KellyFrancis]

Mixing shrimp species usually not good, more than 2 shrimp (m+f) usually not good in smaller tanks, porclein crabs don't survive long without an anemone to host, if it survives any length of time it will be in a hole in the rocks - you really won't see it. Fighting conchs get large too large for your tank. Turbos get large and without a bunch of green algae to eat don't last long. Unleash a cowrie in your tank no hope of corals.

With that being said - spiney torques do well in established tanks and achieve a decent visible size an inch or two. Tiger conchs don't get that big and will do the samething as the fighting. 55 is probably only good for 1 tho.

Now 1 question for you - Do you have an iodine testkit + and iodine suppliment - shrimp + crabs use up a bunch when molting - insufficent levels spells doom for them.

Thank you for the advice! The web always says something different than you guys do and I like to hear from the personal experiences. I'll look into the spiney torques and tiger conchs. The primary reason I went with the animals on that list is because they were all available for LiveAquaria's DIY reef cleaner set. Except the cowrie - Can't find them anywhere...Well, I lied, I did find one place in Ireland and another in Canada that sells them but I don't even want to know what I'd have to pay for shipping on 5 or 6 3 dollar animals! lol

A question about the cowrie - The web says that the money and ringed cowrie don't get to more than an inch and they are strictly herbivorous. Do you have an experience of them eating coral? I passed up both the deer and tiger cowrie for that reason - they get too big and are known to nibble on corals when they get hungry.

I don't have a test/supplement for the iodine but had planned on supplementing both iodine and calcium when I filled out the crew. I also need magnesium and iron for the mangroves. Quite a shopping list I'm growing here, lol. I'll probably get a test for all 4 when I get the supplements. I do treat trace every now and again, maybe once a month, just to be on the safe side. My shrimp molts every three or so weeks and he's a monster so, for the time being, I'm not worried about it. But I had planned to accommodate a larger supply of those elements once I had animals that would use that supply.

And as for supplementing the snails if/when I run out of algae... Can I feed them lettuce and other greens that one would feed like a pleco? Or do I have to stick to nori and other seaweeds? Just curious, I haven't looked into it at all. Quite frankly, never thought to....

 

[Ptrick125]

Thank you for the advice! The web always says something different than you guys do and I like to hear from the personal experiences. I'll look into the spiney torques and tiger conchs. The primary reason I went with the animals on that list is because they were all available for LiveAquaria's DIY reef cleaner set. Except the cowrie - Can't find them anywhere...Well, I lied, I did find one place in Ireland and another in Canada that sells them but I don't even want to know what I'd have to pay for shipping on 5 or 6 3 dollar animals! lol

A question about the cowrie - The web says that the money and ringed cowrie don't get to more than an inch and they are strictly herbivorous. Do you have an experience of them eating coral? I passed up both the deer and tiger cowrie for that reason - they get too big and are known to nibble on corals when they get hungry.

I don't have a test/supplement for the iodine but had planned on supplementing both iodine and calcium when I filled out the crew. I also need magnesium and iron for the mangroves. Quite a shopping list I'm growing here, lol. I'll probably get a test for all 4 when I get the supplements. I do treat trace every now and again, maybe once a month, just to be on the safe side. My shrimp molts every three or so weeks and he's a monster so, for the time being, I'm not worried about it. But I had planned to accommodate a larger supply of those elements once I had animals that would use that supply.

And as for supplementing the snails if/when I run out of algae... Can I feed them lettuce and other greens that one would feed like a pleco? Or do I have to stick to nori and other seaweeds? Just curious, I haven't looked into it at all. Quite frankly, never thought to....

The snails would eat eat either one...

I have feed snails lettuce and greens a lot, and a lot of algae wafers ARE dried seaweed...


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[KellyFrancis]

The snails would eat eat either one...

I have feed snails lettuce and greens a lot, and a lot of algae wafers ARE dried seaweed...

I know algae wafers are dried seaweed. I was asking whether I could feed a saltwater animal something he wouldn't necessarily encounter in the wild - would he be able to digest the complex molecules or are they the same as are found in seaweed - and would all the herbivores in the tank be able to digest the greens - stuff like that... And, if they can digest it, would it have any long-term health repercussions?

You said you've fed your snails lettuce - What other things have you fed them and how long have they been supplemented this way?

 

[Ptrick125]

I know algae wafers are dried seaweed. I was asking whether I could feed a saltwater animal something he wouldn't necessarily encounter in the wild - would he be able to digest the complex molecules or are they the same as are found in seaweed - and would all the herbivores in the tank be able to digest the greens - stuff like that... And, if they can digest it, would it have any long-term health repercussions?

You said you've fed your snails lettuce - What other things have you fed them and how long have they been supplemented this way?

I have feed FW snails lettuce for a year, and SW snails for about 3 weeks... But whenever I go to a public aquarium I see them feed their green-eaters lettuce along with dried sea weed sheets (nori)

I feed my snails lettuce, greens, and algae wafers. But they also eat scraps of the damsel's shrimp pellets, Betta pellets, and krill.


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