Lucky Dad?

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dchaos52

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Hey guys, dunno im a bit bored so i thought id share a story.

Well i do my weekly water cahnges, and test my water, but my dad.. never does.

Hes had his 20 gallon tank for 5 YEARS :WHOA: and only 2 of his fish have died, (angel fish) but he has NEVER done a water change, hes also NEVER tested his water, all he does is fill it up when it starts to get low (every few months) and everything is crystal clear, and perfect, its amazing... do you think its luck? or is it true that water changes are over-hyped?
 
everything is crystal clear, and perfect, its amazing

What's perfect? You've tested the total disolved solids, pH (daily, not just once, otherwise you wouldn't know if it's stayed consistant), nitrates and everything else, and they're perfect? I think that would be hard to believe.

And what kind of fish does he have in there? That makes a huge difference.
 
Clear water doesn't mean squat. His Nitrates are probably through the roof, and the fish have just slowly adjusted to it.
 
sounds like my friend's 55g. Never changes water, only refills tank. He has two goldfish, one neon tetra, and a small pleco. It has been the same for 2 years.
 
ShadowBass;1137561; said:
What's perfect? You've tested the total disolved solids, pH (daily, not just once, otherwise you wouldn't know if it's stayed consistant), nitrates and everything else, and they're perfect? I think that would be hard to believe.

And what kind of fish does he have in there? That makes a huge difference.

Perfect meaning, all his fish are healthy, showing no signs of stress or illness, and even if his nitrates are through the roof, his fish are fine, so it doesnt matter...
 
That is weird. Test his water and take pix of the nitrate test tube. With the solution the water is probably black. lol.
 
It matters....That tank is on the edge of a cliff and luck might have it that it hasant fallen off yet but what's to say that a few extra pellets won't throw off whatever balance is going on in there. My advice to you would be don't use that tank as an example. Keep doing what your doing. If the tank crashes an he losses his fish he will regret not doing the wc's.
 
the funny thing is, we who take so much care of our fish lose some occasionaly. Sigh...
 
This thread kind of makes my point that maybe we all see what we want to see.
I don't believe in ghosts. You can't convince me of ghosts. You may believe in ghosts and may see ghosts that aren't really there.
In this case, maybe the "nitrate or nitrite" harm is the ghost.
We have a tank running with happy inhabitants for 5 years, not 1 month. We have those who say the parameters are way off, but the fish adjusted. We have someone saying that tank is on the edge and a ticking time bomb. A 5 year time bomb?
I would bet a good chunk of change that as soon as that tank is tested, SOMETHING will go wrong. It ain't broke...............
 
Onion01;1137607; said:
sounds like my friend's 55g. Never changes water, only refills tank. He has two goldfish, one neon tetra, and a small pleco. It has been the same for 2 years.

Let me tell a little story about my first fishkeeping experience...

I was probably about 11 yrs old, maybe 10. I set up a 10g tank with nothing but gravel and bubble box with airline tubing. No airstone or anything just the tube in the water.

I stocked it with 3 south american catfish (dunno what kind, that's what they were named at the pet store), and a few bait minnows. Well, 2 of the minnows died first, they'd already been in our bucket all day so I wasn't expecting any of them to live. Within a week 2 of the catfish died. That left me with one of the catfish and a minnow.

That's not that relevent part...

I had this tank set up for 3 years. These fish somehow lived in this tank for 3 years with absolutely no filtration and barely any oxygen. I would let the water evaporate to the point where there was almost no water left in the tank and then I would siphon the gravel a little bit and add water WITHOUT dechlorinating it. This was city water, so it definately had chlorine. Sometimes I would top off the tank with tapwater without even doing a water change.

For 3 years these fish actually ate well and looked healthy. Hell, my minnow was extremely active and would eat out of my hand. The fish only died when I decided to add more fish and they all came down with ich (well, what I know to be ich now....).

So tell me. Just because fish look healthy in someone's crappy tank does that mean maintanance isn't important for PROPER fishkeeping? I think not...

To answer the original question, it's luck and some coincidentally hardy fish. There have been people that have somehow kept goldfish alive in bowls for years just topping the water off and changing some of it periodically. These fish might be living in toxic waste but they survive somehow. It doesn't give an excuse to ignore maintanance.
 
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