Making my Irwini come out

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Rafini

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My irwini is somewhere between 4-5" and was really small like 2" and skinny when I got him, he has a great big belly on him now and I have trained him to take shelter in a cave leaned up at the glass. I drop his food into there and recently these last few days he has became a little more active instead of just sitting there. I'm wondering if I take out all the wood and have the tank virtually bare would this train him to be more active? all the videos I see of big ones on youtube they behave like normal catfish swimming in the open isntead of hiding.

is it a thing with size? or can you slowly adjust them to come out more?
 
R: My irwini is somewhere between 4-5" and was really small like 2" and skinny when I got him, he has a great big belly on him now and I have trained him to take shelter in a cave leaned up at the glass.
TBTB: You've done a great job, judging from that other thread of yours with pics.

R: I drop his food into there and recently these last few days he has became a little more active instead of just sitting there.
TBTB: Yes - a matter of size and comfort and, hence, confidence.

R: I'm wondering if I take out all the wood and have the tank virtually bare would this train him to be more active?
TBTB: They are almost strictly nocturnal animals. He may be stressed a bit but he will get used to it, I think. He may not be much more active, just more visible to you as he will be lying in 1 or a few spots around the tank all day waiting for the lights to go out.

R: all the videos I see of big ones on youtube they behave like normal catfish swimming in the open isntead of hiding.
TBTB: The majority of cats are hiders and nocturnal critters. So, the statement of "normalcy" I disagree with. There are some that are definitely active swimmers day or night, like IDS.

R: is it a thing with size?
TBTB: absolutely.

R: or can you slowly adjust them to come out more?
TBTB: with partial success yes. Food can do it. But the smaller they are, the more they will hide - their self-preservation instinct tells them to eat as much as possible to grow fast and outgrow being preyed upon and to hide and to come out only at night to avoid sight-oriented predators.
 
I have peronally found that if you have multiple irwini cats they tend to be more active. Still not very active during the day but moreso than a solitary irwini.
 
Good point. Agreed... from experience too.

They will never swim around in day light like an IDS, if that's what you'd like. We all'd like that :)
 
Give it some time, it will come around. keep doing what you're doing... feed during the day, it will get adapted. I would leave a hiding place for it so it doesn't stress out.

IME, I didn't see my irwini at all when I first got. Now it's a 'Tank hogg!!' :D :eek:
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Woah how big is that guy Phulltank? looks amazing.

Thanks for the in depth answers to my questions Thebiggerthebetter, couldn't have asked for more than that! the pictures from before were good but hes even bigger now, problem is that my cameras broken so I will have to take some in a while after its fixed.

I mainly wanted to know if I force him out in the open will he adapt, but as you said its in his natural instinct to hide so he most likely would cram into a corner or something. I believe what I have right now is pretty good compared to what some people experience with their Irwini's when they are young.

I can't get any more irwini's as this guy was really expensive and they very rarely come in. If i combined him with other raphaels would he get along with them? my Irwini tail whips anyone who goes in his cave so I think he may be antisocial right now.
 
I think he may like some Doradidae company. It may depend on several factors. Sex is one of them. Size/sexual maturity too. Your tanks have plenty of furniture, so it is not likely they will hide together but of course possible.

Two months ago I bought five ~3"-4" TL irwinies from John Kreatsoulas in Ft. Myers, FL, aka Snookn21@yahoo.com. Here is his web site, he keeps his stock/price list current but I'd give him a call before ordering or to order: http://www.freshwatertropicalfishonline.com/

Don't know what you call expensive but mine were $25 each. There were 5 left. John ships all over too and he is quite reputable on MFK and elsewhere. Nice guy too. I try to visit him once a couple of months.

I cannot decipher your location :) Are you really on a Portuguese island in the middle of Atlantic ocean?
 
I have 4 of them got them at about 3". There about 6-7" now except one of them stayed small. I haven't seen the small one for a while. I think one of my big bichirs ate him. I used to keep a clay log in the tank. They would only come out to feed. I recently took out the log and they just pile up in one corner. They scuffle around to be the one on the bottom. But that is basically there only activity unless its feeding time then they don't venture to far from the corner to eat. When lights are out they may swim around I don't know.
 
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