Michael Vick should be MVP in 2010. He is the man!

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Ballin did you play at the O?....back to the topic Matt Cassel did have a solid year that year for a young guy but the dolphins had an amazing year. And no where did anybody say that Matt Cassel was better than Brady. So my point that the system is what makes Brady one of the GOAT has nothing to do with your argument. No team at that time with Matt Cassel leading it should've gone 11-5.
 
Wet Whiskers;4739934; said:
This man is a disgusting human being, and I find it appalling that people can idolize him even after what he's done. I don't care how good you are at a game. He's a piece of crap, doesn't deserve peoples respect.

:iagree: 100%
 
nomad;4742401; said:

what does this have to do with Vick being the MVP of the NFL? Does the title say should Michael Vick be MVP of PETA?
 
juneblood3;4742394; said:
Ballin did you play at the O?....back to the topic Matt Cassel did have a solid year that year for a young guy but the dolphins had an amazing year. And no where did anybody say that Matt Cassel was better than Brady. So my point that the system is what makes Brady one of the GOAT has nothing to do with your argument. No team at that time with Matt Cassel leading it should've gone 11-5.


i could argue about this topic day and night but it's pointless. i can beat you with stats, i can beat you with records, i can beat you with recent history. The only thing i can't beat you on is opinions. At the end of the day, the voters are going to sit down and look at factual numbers, not opinions. And with those numbers, brady will come out the mvp, not vick
 
BRADY will be mvp ...he helped the pats to the best record in the nfl and played in every game and whens the last time he has thrown a pick ..O thats right didnt he just break a record..he has done way more for his team then vick has, vick is just more of a flashy player.....
 
Too me it seems Brady is better at throwing the ball then Vick but Vick makes up for it by running with the ball, but running all the time doesn't make a QB great
 
Warborg;4742738; said:
Too me it seems Brady is better at throwing the ball then Vick but Vick makes up for it by running with the ball, but running all the time doesn't make a QB great

Yeah, but running does make it more exciting.
 
Wet Whiskers;4739934; said:
This man is a disgusting human being, and I find it appalling that people can idolize him even after what he's done. I don't care how good you are at a game. He's a piece of crap, doesn't deserve peoples respect.

I don't idolize him, but I do respect him. Many celebrities lose control and most of them thrive in the negative limelight and get more rich from it. Vick served his time without issue, is rehabilitated and has donated millions to animal charity as well as become an active, public member in that community, preaching his wrongs to children and adults alike. He has lost a lot of time and money and made a lot of enemies. So after all of that he is given another chance to play in the NFL (murderers have done the same, where is the thread about that?) I see no reason why people can't call a great football player a great football player because of what happens off the field.

If you don't believe in the rehabilitation process then what do you believe in? Life imprisonment for every felony?

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I do think that Brady deserves the MVP, though, because the Patriots were going nowhere this year and he made a brilliant plan with the tight ends to make up for losing Randy.
 
Madding;4742853; said:
I don't idolize him, but I do respect him. Many celebrities lose control and most of them thrive in the negative limelight and get more rich from it. Vick served his time without issue, is rehabilitated and has donated millions to animal charity as well as become an active, public member in that community, preaching his wrongs to children and adults alike. He has lost a lot of time and money and made a lot of enemies. So after all of that he is given another chance to play in the NFL (murderers have done the same, where is the thread about that?) I see no reason why people can't call a great football player a great football player because of what happens off the field.

If you don't believe in the rehabilitation process then what do you believe in? Life imprisonment for every felony?
:iagree:
 
ballinouttacntrol;4742437; said:
i could argue about this topic day and night but it's pointless. i can beat you with stats, i can beat you with records, i can beat you with recent history. The only thing i can't beat you on is opinions. At the end of the day, the voters are going to sit down and look at factual numbers, not opinions. And with those numbers, brady will come out the mvp, not vick

MVP is not based only on numbers as you know. I never said Brady wash putting up MVP Ike numbers but only that the hoody and his staff put there players in excellent positions to be successful. Brady has taken full advantage of it. I just think Vick is more valuable to that team.
 
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