Minnow ID

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haha what?
they're bad for tanks?

i had it with me for like 2 days.
 
There not bad at all I think that they are cleaner that goldfish Striperkeeper. They are better looking to when they have all of there scales and they actually move around the tank and huddle up in schools. In my 55 knife tank I am adding a school of 10 3 inchers.
 
Your fish appears to be Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner.
they are regular ol shiners put 10 of them in a 10gallon tank with a ton of filtration and they will turn your water into a toxic waste dump

This type of reply has no value since it's really unclear as to what actually want to say. This is a Cyprinind just like tetras.....do tetras turn your water into a toxic waste dump??? It would really be helpful if you could tell us why minnows ruin water quality based on past experiences. I might also suggest that placing 10 of any fish in a tiny 10 gallon tank might upset the biological filtration regardless of the family or filtration. I keep many cyprinids at home and feel sunfish and other medium sized predators effect water quality negatively much more inch for inch than my Cyprinids.
 
I second that Golden shiner. It looks like they have that decurved lateral line. They do get big, off the top of my head, the largest Native cyprinids down here, but the "toxic waste dump" comment is BS. As is the "regular old shiner" slander... That's the old bait fish mentality that makes me want to puke. This kinda thing just gets to me.

I have some in a trough in my backyard with all kinds of other natives and they do great. The water boils when you feed them...
 
striperkeeper;1249440; said:
they are regular ol shiners put 10 of them in a 10gallon tank with a ton of filtration and they will turn your water into a toxic waste dump



I have kept "bait" shiners in the past, they almost always come down with ick, or some type of fungus. they are often kept in terrible conditions and are generally stressed and have a very high mortality rate.

having said that, if you get them to live 2 months they are pretty much bullet proof, they grow pretty fast, they school up and are very active, and attractive. keep a lid on the tank they are jumpers.
 
Yeah, bait minnows aren't usually kept in the best water quality or handled gently. They usually keep very cold very heaviliy aerated water to keep them from keeling over (a lot still do), and they're not meant to survive longer than it takes for someone to buy them for fishing anyway, but once you remove them,
1. They get temperature shock
2. Oxygen content is significantly lower which kills most of 'em pretty fast
2. Raised temperature allows any disease or other problems they have to progress much faster

So yeah, unless you're putting them in a chilled and heavily oxygenated tank like at the bait shop and then treating all of them with various meds you're not gonna have success with most of them long term.
The ones that do survive always end up being pretty hardy.
 
teleost;1250351; said:
Your fish appears to be Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner.


This type of reply has no value since it's really unclear as to what actually want to say. This is a Cyprinind just like tetras.....do tetras turn your water into a toxic waste dump??? It would really be helpful if you could tell us why minnows ruin water quality based on past experiences. I might also suggest that placing 10 of any fish in a tiny 10 gallon tank might upset the biological filtration regardless of the family or filtration. I keep many cyprinids at home and feel sunfish and other medium sized predators effect water quality negatively much more inch for inch than my Cyprinids.

Tetras aren't cyprinids, they're characins. ;)
 
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