Moved to FL - Returning to Hobby - Advice Needed

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BillWeckel

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Nov 12, 2010
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Blue Mountain Beach FL
Hi All,

I'm new to this forum, but not new to fish keeping. I have, however, not had a tank in about 7 years or so. Much has changed since.

I've had just about every type of setup there is. Went from freshwater, to African Cichlids, to salt FO, reef, freshwater planted tank, and everything in between.

I got out of it all a while back, but now I'm single again, living alone, and moving two blocks from the beach in South Walton, FL. I have the money, space, time, and solitude to do pretty much anything I want, and I think that includes setting up a big tank.

Out of all the niches in this hobby, I think I like salt FO the most. I especially like Triggers, and am kicking around the idea of a Trigger'ish type community tank (insofar as that is possible) with Triggers, Puffers, and maybe a Lionfish and Eel. I've had similar tanks, but on a smaller scale.

I'm thinking about something around 150 to 200g. I'm not wealthy, and will probably try to pickup the tank and stand used. I wanted to get your opinions on a few issues:

1. I will be two blocks from the beach. South Walton has crystal clear water, and sugar white sands. What do you guys think about using natural seawater and white sand harvested from the shallows. Of course I'll have to figure out a way to move that much sand and water two blocks (which may as well be two miles), but at least as far as the sand goes, it might be worth the hassle in money saved, and I wouldn't have to do it all at once.

2. What sort of setup would you recommend? I'm thinking some sort of DIY cannister filter that will give me lots of turnover. I would probably add another small commercial cannister filter with a UV sterilizer inline to kill the bugs.

3. I'm thinking that on a FO tank, I won't need a skimmer. Thoughts?

Anyone doing anything similar to this?

Thanks in advance!

Bill
 
Hey Bill, and welcome to MFK. IM GREEN! :D

BillWeckel;4622246; said:
Hi All,

I'm new to this forum, but not new to fish keeping. I have, however, not had a tank in about 7 years or so. Much has changed since.

I've had just about every type of setup there is. Went from freshwater, to African Cichlids, to salt FO, reef, freshwater planted tank, and everything in between.

I got out of it all a while back, but now I'm single again, living alone, and moving two blocks from the beach in South Walton, FL. I have the money, space, time, and solitude to do pretty much anything I want, and I think that includes setting up a big tank.

Very nice, hopefully it will be enjoyable for you, and the mfk community because of this thread.

Out of all the niches in this hobby, I think I like salt FO the most. I especially like Triggers, and am kicking around the idea of a Trigger'ish type community tank (insofar as that is possible) with Triggers, Puffers, and maybe a Lionfish and Eel. I've had similar tanks, but on a smaller scale.

I'm thinking about something around 150 to 200g. I'm not wealthy, and will probably try to pickup the tank and stand used. I wanted to get your opinions on a few issues:

I think if you wanted to, and really poked around, you could do bigger (and better) for not much more.

1. I will be two blocks from the beach. South Walton has crystal clear water, and sugar white sands. What do you guys think about using natural seawater and white sand harvested from the shallows. Of course I'll have to figure out a way to move that much sand and water two blocks (which may as well be two miles), but at least as far as the sand goes, it might be worth the hassle in money saved, and I wouldn't have to do it all at once.

My brother while living in fort myers florida collected beach sand, but he cycled his tank, and did h2o changes before stocking anything. Generalyl speaking its not recommended due to the contaminants of the beach.

I would stray even farhter away from gathering my own saltwater. Seems to me that h2o quality could never be as good as mixing your own, and its not too bad. If we set up your tank correctly, you shouldnt have to waste too much salt.

2. What sort of setup would you recommend? I'm thinking some sort of DIY cannister filter that will give me lots of turnover. I would probably add another small commercial cannister filter with a UV sterilizer inline to kill the bugs.

I would recommend trying to get your hands on a drilled tank, or making your own acrylic (this opens up some awesome possibilities, and isnt too expensive)

Canisters are genearlly not recommended, and sumps/refugiums expand water volume which means cleaner water. Refuge's can give little critters a place to breed, giving your fish more food, and can be used to grow macro algaes which will keep your h2o cleaner between water changes.

Sterilization is something that I have never done, so I cant advise you on that.

3. I'm thinking that on a FO tank, I won't need a skimmer. Thoughts?

Exact opposite. The only real reason anyone has come up with in front of me for not having a skimmer is that it removes things living in the water column that corals could eat. Pretty weak argument, and with the heavy bioload of FO tanks, a quality skimmer can be a life saver.

Anyone doing anything similar to this?

I am...I currently have a baby monsters 125g tank...

Thanks in advance!

Bill

No Worries Bill.
 
Hey Bill

Please keep us up-dated on your progress.

I would love to follow along as you progress to the point of having a stocked tank
 
Wellcome!

You sure need to study again and start over. Good, very good taste in fish , though!

Use as much live rock as you can and USE a Protein Skimmmer ( even more with the bio load you are looking at ).

Mixing Triggers is very complicated. Why not a Dog Faced Puffer and a Trigger?
 
Miguel;4626015; said:
Mixing Triggers is very complicated. Why not a Dog Faced Puffer and a Trigger?

Although personal experience would say that mixing triggers is MORE complicated, there are puffer purists who say that puffers should only be housed alone. The speed of the triggers to get to food, and their teeth apparently are not a good combo with puffers.
 
FLESHY;4626629; said:
Although personal experience would say that mixing triggers is MORE complicated, there are puffer purists who say that puffers should only be housed alone. The speed of the triggers to get to food, and their teeth apparently are not a good combo with puffers.


I've had them together with never a problem. Dogfaced Puffers with a Picasso, a Clown and a Tiger Trigger
 
Miguel;4626818; said:
I've had them together with never a problem. Dogfaced Puffers with a Picasso, a Clown and a Tiger Trigger

Just dont let pufferpunk see you say that! :D

I hope you are right because I am getting a puffer in the near future. (Once major filtration overhaul is complete)

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/Striped-Dogface_p_694.html

I have a niger and a rectangulus. I think that they are going to put up with each other at this point, but the rectangulus as he becomes healthier (super skinny where he was) is starting to pick on other fish. Welcome to the terrordome I guess... :D
 
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