I agree I was shooting without a flash as to not startle them . I will try to get some better shots with the door open . They are not so sure about me just yet thats why the pics look like they do.The male is getting used to me at a quicker rate than the female but that's the nature of these monitors. Hopefully after they become fat and happy I will try to handle them .davo;1704807; said:beautiful! The pics of the making of the viv were so much better though lol! Glad they are settling in, are they much used to you yet?