Just sharing. I've had this pair for a couple years. Best pair of Festae I've ever had. Male is over 10", female around 8". I keep them in a 5', 65 gallon, by themselves. Great parents, I usually allow the fry to stay with them a couple months before pulling them. They have fry now...... If anyone in NE Ohio is looking for a nice pair, I'm selling .lol

