Thanks Guys! I've had them a few months now and always thought that they looked different.. ie m/f .. tbh doesn't really matter, they get along great. But they are in a 20H and as curiouse as they are lol I got a rough measurement of 7" from teh big one and 6 1/2" of the smaller one. Time will tell. =D and yes deffinately bit by the Bug. Eventually I'de like to get an Congicus. Those being my favorite. But I'll prolly end up with an Ornate.