Well i picked up 2 petsmart trimacs and i do believe they are trimacs but i sent rapps some pics to confirm. i told the store manager about the low grade fw theory thats been going around and he asured me they are real tris as he said he is into sa/ca as well and has raised some small ones up before but i will let u know what jeff has to say. i only got pics of 1 cause the other was hiding under a cave.