I just got this guy Tuesday night. If I turn the lights on or get my face really close to the tank he freaks out, so it has been impossible to get an accurate measurement. He already ended up on the floor once when I briefly removed the lid to siphon the bottom of the tank. So my best estimate on size is around 7". I'm keeping the water cooler in this tank, and after he settles in I will cut back on feeding so he won't outgrow the tank too quickly. By the way, the thermometer sticker on the tank is old. The water is actually around 71F. And yes, those are tiny baby Jack Dempseys in the tank with him. And yes again, he has 2 in his stomach. They are all very healthy and free of disease. I am gutloading them with massivore pellets because it is the only way to get any pellets into him. My goonch was completely uninterested in the JD's, so I threw them in here. I know that many of you are against live feeding, but this fish is a true predator and it is natural for it to hunt and kill its food. After it finishes off this batch, I will be feeding cut filets for a while. I'll do my best to keep this thread updated for those of you that are interested.














