Native tank questions

[muskieboy]

I have a 25 gallon tank (30"x12.5"x16") that I would like to setup as a native tank. So far I have one marina slim s20 filter but I will buy another one next time they go on sale. I would prefer not to buy another heater which is why I decided to do a native tank. The tank will probably be going in my basement where the room temperature is around 70 degrees. Is this okay? I was thinking of stocking it with baby LMB, SMB, sunfish and anything else I catch in my minnow trap. Also the fish will need to be transported from my cottage to my house (roughly 2 hours). How should I go about doing this?

Thanks

 

[fisher12889]

I believe it is illegal to take fish for your tank in Ontario...pretty sure I saw it in a recent thread so you better do your research.

Aside from that, lmb, smb, and most other sunfish will grow much too large for a 25 gallon.

 

[muskieboy]

It's not illegal to keep or take the fish it is only illegal to transport them without a permit. I think this is to prevent people from releasing them into other lakes or selling them to restaurants. I'm just putting it in a fish tank so whats the big deal.

Yes i know they will outgrow my tank.

EDIT: You do need a license to collect the fish.

Scroll down to the 16th post
http://forum.nanfa.org/index.php/topic/4662-legality-of-keeping-native-fish-in-ontario/

 

[Gill Blue]

you don't. bass need hundreds of gallons. unless you will be upgrading in a month or two guaranteed, why get fish just to kill them in a few months?
same goes for bluegill, way to big for such a small tank.
no pumpkinseed either.
some darters, or dace would work, neither get over 4".
a couple northern longears would be OK, but I wouldn't put in more than 1 if you want some other fish. 2 if they'll be the only ones.

 

[muskieboy]

Thanks for the advice. I'll look into the northern long ears and darters. Also I never said that I would kill the fish.

 

[thechief]

You could probably get away with a green sunfish if you get it small those are pretty cool but not to much you can do in a 25 good luck your going to love natives

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[fisher12889]

You could probably get away with a green sunfish if you get it small those are pretty cool but not to much you can do in a 25 good luck your going to love natives

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Greenies will definitely outgrow a 25.

And to the op...this isn't about how "bad" it is, its the fact that its illegal. You said its illegal to transport fish, that would make it illegal to transport a fish from the lake to your tank, yes? Not only does this kind of thing set a bad example for the site, but people HAVE been busted for posting that stuff on here...

 

[muskieboy]

I am going to get a permit that allows me to transport live fish before I attempt to transport any fish. Apparently this permit is easy to get and is free.

Right now I am just trying to get some help setting up my tank.
Is a water temperature of roughly 68 degrees okay for this fish?

 

[bassfisher91]

That should be a good water temp for most natives except for trout/salmon. I'd recommend some small type of sunfish and possibly a baby madtom or something along those lines. My favorite native of all time is my single bluegill though but they will outgrow your tank eventually. Mine is such a boss and eats from my hands and begs for food just like any other cichlid. Its also 11 inches long.

 

[Umbra]

A fishing license allows you to keep up to 100 of any species considered a baitfish in Ontario. This includes a wide variety of darters, minnows, sculpins, mudminnows, etc. A contact of mine attempted to get a collection permit and was denied, they're apparently not that easy to get. You can also buy fish from a licensed aquaculture operation and transport/keep them legally, just keep the receipt. Pure Springs Trout Farm is an example of one.

68 will work for hatchery trout, might be too high for wild headwater trout like brookies though.