need help sexing these

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Camphilophus

Feeder Fish
MFK Member
Apr 11, 2008
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Howell, Michigan
Fish #1-
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I always thought this one was a male but I also thought that the spot in the dorsal fish means that it's a female. I still think it's a male, what do you think?

Fish #2-
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This is the one I am really unsure about. I always thought this one was a female but it hasn't laid any eggs yet and it's 4". It doesn't seem to be interested in any of my males and hasn't ever laid eggs. What do you think?

2 males.....?
 
2 males. this is why the dorsal isn't 100%. the double flower line can screw it up. i am sure there is other reasons, but this is one of them.
 
What do you guys think of them? I personally don't like red dragons too much myself but think these would both be a solid fish for somebody who is into these strains. They both have good shape, color, fins and flowerline. They're just not the glass bangers I want them to be although I'm sure it could be achiever if they had their own tank and a owner who gave them a lot of attention.
 
I have one that is awesome but it's never dropped it's tube for any of my males. I have a ugly one my girlfriend made me keep growing out in my cryptoheros tank (kind of a perfect tank to grow out not so aggressive female flowerhorns.) And I lost my favorite female to a male who randomly snapped one day. Aside from that I never really had any good females. The order I did with these ones I sold all the females right at the beginning because I thought they had no potential.. I didn't even think that they would have been all my females LOL. Like a week after I sold 3 of my 10 the guy I sold them to told me all 3 of them laid eggs for him, oops! I should probably save myself some females from the 5 I got this time. So far by watching them and their size/aggression I have 2 males and 3 females. I don't need any more males but I might keep 1.
 
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