thanks to all the Mfk users that helped me decide and i got my midas pair !! i will post pics later today or tomorrow. i have a male and female in a 75G (as suggested) , im just wondering how much hiding spots are needed for the female to retreat ? and what are the chances of the male killing the female ? do they kill the female alot ? or is that because of size ?
Need some help with my Midas'
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it seems the questions you are asking is one's you should be asking yourself before you buy fish.
Hmmm, I'm surprised that MFK'ers would suggest a 75 for a pair of Midas one in there seems like plenty. In advance I want you to know I'm not trying to derail your thread or flame you or start any trouble, I'm just surprised. As for your question, it's not the best looking but one flower pot should do for her. Just prop it with the open end facing an aquarium wall and knock a hole in the bottom/front now of the pot that's only big enough to let the female in but not the male. This way he can't get at her, plus this has the added benefit of you being able to increase the size of the opening as the female grows. Also unfortunately in the size tank they'll be kept in more than likely he'll pick on her relentlessly as he grows and his presumed territory grows so basically theres a good chance he might suceed one day. That's my opinion anyway, I could be wrong.
okay from what i just read i took very bad advice lool , i will return the female tomorrow. can i keep the male and a few SD's in the 75 ?
Sorry still pushing it as far as stocking goes. You could try to do it when the Midas is a juvenile, but eventually he'll grow large enough to need the whole tank. You can probably get away with a pleco if it's done right. Though honestly I don't know for sure about how serious the temperament of a Midas can be. I've heard they're less aggressive than a Devil, but I don't know how much stock I put in that. I've kept devils and they are basically intolerant of anything in their tank, at least in my eperience. Though as many point out each fish is an individual so personalities vary.
the temperment is based on fish hell you could find one that would accept a tankmate but thats a rarity. but i would want to see a pic to make sure it isn't the famous red devil-midas hybrid. if it is you could have yourself one mean fish.
this being said, but in my LFS they have a jaguar cichlid female about 13-14 inches in a large tank with gourami's and juwel cichlids. everyone gets on just fine. some large cichlids are much more docile than you might give them credit for, but yes in most cases the large fish will need a whole tank to itself. only you will be able to tell as it grows.
you could just keep the SD's in until he tries to beat them up when hes larger and then sell them or put them in another tank.
you could just keep the SD's in until he tries to beat them up when hes larger and then sell them or put them in another tank.
slightly of topic but my male barred midas is at 7 inches and is the most docile fish ive ever owned, where as my last male which i lost was in the top 5 nasty's.... luck of the draw really! convicts hold there own and stay pretty small maybe a good tank mate along with a smaller pleco?
From what I read on his threads regarding midas there was only one person who looked like they suggested a pair in a 75g. Even then it could also read like "would" is a typo and "wouldn't" will also fit the advice given regarding a midas pair in a 75. That one paragraph could be correctly written or a typo, its hard to tell without that person clarifying.
My midas is a pussycat and is far from fierce. She is only 9.5" and appears to have stopped growing. She had a 4ft bow front tank which was around the 70g mark and it just didn't look right. Two large fish will look even worse and I highly doubt a testosterone fuelled midas male will leave a female alone for two minutes. I cannot imagine you having a 10-15" brute along with a 9" female in a 75g playing happy families.
Midas like mine are in the minority, outside of very large tanks, and you have a slim chance of getting one never mind two who will tolerate other fish, let alone other cichlids, in such tight quarters.
Footprint is everything and I would recommend a 5x2' footprint for a midas pair as midas males can hit 12"+ easily and they are very chunky as well, I believe this would give you the best chance of success. I highly doubt a large male will allow another fish in a 75.