i have kept asian needle nose gars in the past. they arent true gars though. get 10-12 inches. i had a trio in a 45 gallon tank. water was in the 80s. i had lots of live plants. mine ate rosey reds. mine bred at 7-9 inches. pretty easy to care for. just give them room and cover so they arent banging their noses on the side of the glass.