Neovespicula depresifrons? Where to get and possible tank mates?

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Hey, I have a bit of a problem. I have a 45 gallon tall (48x12x18) brackish tank with a single mono. Yes i know this tank is way to small for a mono to live out its whole life but it is presently only about 2 inches long and 3 deep. Originally i had planned on getting a larger tank (100-125 gallon) and getting some tank mates for my mono cause there a shoaling species. But as it turns out we are moving soon and there just won't be room for a large tank at our new house so I'm going to have to return the mono (fortunately he is still small and will probably not get stuck in a display tank).

So now i have an empty 45 gallon brackish and i have no idea what to put in it. For a while now i had always had my eyes on Neovespicula depressifrons but there had always been a problem of finding them. I did manage to find them on liveaquaria.com, but i don't know if have fish shipped to me is a good idea (any advice is this a good idea?). If anyone in the Seattle are would happen to have some of these please tell me i would gladly take them off your hands.

Also I've had my eye on gobies, but i am just really unfamiliar with the different species (all i know is bumblebee's and dragon's). If someone could fill me in on the different kinds of gobies that would be great. :D
 
Honestly, I know nothing about Neovespicula. I do study gobies though in my spare time.
For a brackish tank...
Low-end brackish would be fine for a species of bumblebee.
Pretty much any level of brackish would be OK for violet (dragon) gobies, but they require a very large tank.
Mogurnda mogurnda, actually a gudgeon, is suitable for brackish.
The Australian desert goby, Chlamydogobius eremius, is a small freshwater goby that's found in desert pools where the salinity may range from FW to hypersaline, so brackish is fine.
Mudskippers are gobies, but they require a lot of land, especially if kept in groups.
Knight gobies...I don't know a lot about them but they're a common brackish species.
Taenioides sp. are like violet gobies, but smaller, and uglier. They're also very rare.
 
Dats.;2827329; said:
Hey, I have a bit of a problem. I have a 45 gallon tall (48x12x18) brackish tank with a single mono. Yes i know this tank is way to small for a mono to live out its whole life but it is presently only about 2 inches long and 3 deep. Originally i had planned on getting a larger tank (100-125 gallon) and getting some tank mates for my mono cause there a shoaling species. But as it turns out we are moving soon and there just won't be room for a large tank at our new house so I'm going to have to return the mono (fortunately he is still small and will probably not get stuck in a display tank).

So now i have an empty 45 gallon brackish and i have no idea what to put in it. For a while now i had always had my eyes on Neovespicula depressifrons but there had always been a problem of finding them. I did manage to find them on liveaquaria.com, but i don't know if have fish shipped to me is a good idea (any advice is this a good idea?). If anyone in the Seattle are would happen to have some of these please tell me i would gladly take them off your hands.

Also I've had my eye on gobies, but i am just really unfamiliar with the different species (all i know is bumblebee's and dragon's). If someone could fill me in on the different kinds of gobies that would be great. :D
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If you do find the ones you are looking for what out for the dorsal spines as they have earned the name waspfish. I have 2 small ones and was moving some rocks around when I jammed it's dorsal into the end of my finger. Let's just say it hurt like hell.....

Cool little guys if you can find some.
 
Dragon cqzzzzz<;2827367; said:
Honestly, I know nothing about Neovespicula. I do study gobies though in my spare time.
For a brackish tank...
Low-end brackish would be fine for a species of bumblebee.
Pretty much any level of brackish would be OK for violet (dragon) gobies, but they require a very large tank.
Mogurnda mogurnda, actually a gudgeon, is suitable for brackish.
The Australian desert goby, Chlamydogobius eremius, is a small freshwater goby that's found in desert pools where the salinity may range from FW to hypersaline, so brackish is fine.
Mudskippers are gobies, but they require a lot of land, especially if kept in groups.
Knight gobies...I don't know a lot about them but they're a common brackish species.
Taenioides sp. are like violet gobies, but smaller, and uglier. They're also very rare.
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That Austrailian desert goby really popped out at me :drool:

BTW my present substrate is coral gravel would changing this to sand be a good choice if i were to get gobies?

If you do find the ones you are looking for what out for the dorsal spines as they have earned the name waspfish. I have 2 small ones and was moving some rocks around when I jammed it's dorsal into the end of my finger. Let's just say it hurt like hell.....

Cool little guys if you can find some.
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I've heard that they sting a lot like a wasp hence the name waspfish. Supposedly its not dangerous but its supposed to really hurt like hell. These guys are what got me into brackish in the first place they really are stunning little fishies. I never can find them in stores though.
 
Definitely change the substrate. Soft sand is a must when you're dealing with such soft skinned bottomdwellers. A lot of gobies dig in the substrate as well, and gravel can seriously damage fins during this activity.
The desert goby is a small (~3 in. max), very prolific goby. No special treatment or change is necessary to cause breeding. The reason for this may be that the fish only lives for about a year or so.
I don't know if you could keep them with waspfish though. The wasp might be too aggressive. Do remember also that gobies are territorial.
 
Dragon cqzzzzz<;2827496; said:
Definitely change the substrate. Soft sand is a must when you're dealing with such soft skinned bottomdwellers. A lot of gobies dig in the substrate as well, and gravel can seriously damage fins during this activity.
The desert goby is a small (~3 in. max), very prolific goby. No special treatment or change is necessary to cause breeding. The reason for this may be that the fish only lives for about a year or so.
I don't know if you could keep them with waspfish though. The wasp might be too aggressive. Do remember also that gobies are territorial.
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Yeah I thought i would need sand. I mine as well empty the tank and change the substrate when i drop off my mono. Are the desert goby fry easy to raise? I've never raised fry much less bred fish before. I plan of understocking a bit to leave room for territories because i have a smallish foot print. Does 3x Neovespicula depressifrons plus 6x Australian Desert Goby sound good (assuming the wasps won't be aggressive)? Im working with 576 square inches of "ground".
 
Since I don't know how large waspfish grow, and how territorial they are, I couldn't tell you. That would definitely be enough for the gobies though.
Desert goby fry are supposed to be easy to raise. Upon hatching they can eat baby brine shrimp, and they grow fast (I think). They do have to be separated from their parents though, once they've hatched. The parents (and waspfishes) will eat the fry.
If you don't have enough ground, you could always make more. Driftwood and other forms of decoration create extra surfaces for the fish to perch on.
 
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