NEVER WATER CHANGE

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Justin Martin

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AHH now that I’ve got your attention. I’d like to bring up the discussion of water changes, or furthermore, nutrient export. Many of us in the saltwater hobby (s***water? Is that a nono on here? Lol) rarely or never do water changes. Obviously we have the slight advantage of successfully skimming protein, as well as the tremendous useable surface area attainable with coral stone. Outside of that, we have the super macroalgea, chaeto, which does a tremendous job of this task as well. But really, 50% bi weekly water changes in freshwater vs. 10% monthly or less in saltwater doesn’t seem to be adding up. I may be missing some key elements to freshwater that I’m not aware of. Up until recently when I decided to get out of freshwater due to lack of time, I was doing 50% a week water changes. My goal before deciding to postpone my 375 build was to mimick the surface area found in coral stone with bioblocks. It is not uncommon to hear the opinion that nitrates are further broken down to nitrogen when there is a large colony of BB, which is exported by bubbling directly out of the tank when using such high volume media. I don’t know if this is true and am interested to see if this topic becomes more popular in the aquarium hobby in general. I had also planned on running a refugium of sorts, and figuring out the perfect plant to consume the excess nutrients. I never did get that far. I’d be interested to hear everyone’s thoughts
 
Well very divided controversial subject. Needing a very knowledgeable aquarist.

The nitrogen cycle in fresh water needs a carbon source to make nice nitrogen bubbles.

Which also lowers PH. Then adds a lot of expense, with sulfur reactors. Fresh water is really inexpensive, so it's more of a economic choice.

My fresh water system yields about 300 watts of leds in a intensive algea growing, substrate and scrubber.

I can hold my nitrate almost in check. Without water changes, but the tank needs mineral supplement or the ammonia burning process grinds to a halt.

I use my tank water for irrigation on my organic berry patch during the summer. During which water changes are quite frequent.

In the winter, mess with the system quite a bit. Mostly to grow food for the fry, and supplement the adults. African Cichlids algea eaters by nature.

I could probably add a sulfur reactor, and some purigen. To preserve the water for a no water change scheme, but that's also more work than the 10 minute valve rotation, flush and fill. Water logistically built system I operate.
 
My nitrate goal average, is 2-5 ppm. To do this (when I lived in the US) I would do every other day 30-40% water changes.
I also ran refugiums, and planted sumps, and planted tanks heavily when the species of fish tolerated planted, or used Pothos. My average gallonage ranged around 1000 gallons of tanks give or take.
I usually ran 3 - 5 tanks on each sump, and planted at least one tank heavily.

After experimenting with a number of plants, Papyrus became my favorite refugium species, and used Rishi and Gammerus type shrimp and MTS snails as refugium animals.


For aquatic plants and, planted sumps, Cryptocorne and Valisneria worked well for me

Although many cichlids (my main focus) tear up plants, many don't if given the right space, the right current, or housed properly according to their social idyocincracies, and numbers per gallons of tank.
A heavily planted tank below
 
Totally different and you can't compare. Skimming is totally different, minerals, etc.

There's a reason this hasn't been done successfully.
 
I was obsessed with this topic for almost a full yr and tried various methods. Some worked for a short time but in the end i had to join the "water changes are easier" crowd.
 
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I also have used protein skimming on fresh water tanks, and ponds, and successfully, but it takes a much stronger current (powerful pump) in fresh water to separate the air water interface.
Below is a video of a DIY model I used on the freshwater koi pond, producing copious amounts of foam, I used the same version on inside tanks.
koi pond fractionation
a couple stills below, of a different variation (counter current)made for a 150 gal tank.

below a bag of skimmer waste, a little bit wetter than in salt water but removed, just the same

 
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