so I have LFS that hooks me up with fish too big for them to sell since they don't have monster tanks. I get a call that someone is bringing a 7-8" Flowerhorn so I say sure I'm interested.. if it's just a plain jane then I have ponds it could enjoy it life in but instead it looks like I got something better.. first of all it's every bit of 12"... these pics are just 15 min after being in my tank.. I will update..